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Ask Gramps of askgramps.org knows the truth now...
Looks like nobody will be able to ask him sunday school questions anymore...
http://www.askgramps.org/h-clay-gorton- ... 1923-2008/
RIP
http://www.askgramps.org/h-clay-gorton- ... 1923-2008/
RIP
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Re: Ask Gramps of askgramps.org knows the truth now...
Boaz & Lidia wrote:Looks like nobody will be able to ask him sunday school questions anymore...
http://www.askgramps.org/h-clay-gorton- ... 1923-2008/
RIP
He certainly led an interesting life. Here's a link to his more detailed autobiography:
http://www.thegortonfamily.com/journal/hcg_journal.htm
Point of trivia: Gramps and Wendall Hall were once missionary companions in Argentina. Both later served as MP's in Argentina (Hall also served as MTC president in Chile). Gramps went on to become a pseudo-apologist, and Hall (a former BYU prof) went on to become a pretty famous ex-mo. You can read about it at Hall's website here:
http://www.nuspel.org/Mormons.html
Both Clay and Wendall led/have led great lives of accomplishment but ended up on extreme ends when it came to Mormonism.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Dr. Shades wrote:Never heard of him.
I don't know that he's ever been discussed here, but he certainly has been in other places (as far as I know, he does not personally post on bb's, but limits himself to his website and letters to the editor). A fascinating guy. Ex'ed simply for not believing anymore. Comes from a very TBM pioneerish family -- brother is Tracy Hall (inventor of the synthetic diamond, and also a former BYU prof). His website is well worth the read.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Rollo Tomasi wrote:I don't know that he's ever been discussed here, but he certainly has been in other places (as far as I know, he does not personally post on bb's, but limits himself to his website and letters to the editor). A fascinating guy. Ex'ed simply for not believing anymore.
I was talking about Gramps himself, not Hall (although I've never heard of Hall, either).
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Dr. Shades wrote:Rollo Tomasi wrote:I don't know that he's ever been discussed here, but he certainly has been in other places (as far as I know, he does not personally post on bb's, but limits himself to his website and letters to the editor). A fascinating guy. Ex'ed simply for not believing anymore.
I was talking about Gramps himself, not Hall (although I've never heard of Hall, either).
You really need to get out more. ;)
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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Bye!
Accomplished or not, I read some of his answers to inquiries that made him seem like a horse's ass.
"Sire, I had no need of that hypothesis" - Laplace
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