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The countless other gods, worlds without end, that exist, exist, but are not worshiped. They have no direct relevance to us, or salvation or our eternal progression. Only in worshiping them would we become polytheists. We cannot become polytheists by simply ackknowldeing there existence.


BY seemed to think that Adam was pretty important. To the point of being the only God we have anything to do with. You discount the LoF, but they were lectures given by the founder of your church. You know, the head of this dispensation. The inconsistency in teachings and doctrine displayed by members and leaders alike is astounding. I don’t know if it is just ignorance or just desperate attempts to make all the weirdness palatable.

The fact that you have made 8 posts in the last 45 minutes tells me a nerve as been touched. A little advice; there is a limit to what will fit on the shelf, even for you. Once that bad boy begins to crack, get out of the way, because when things come tumbling down it will be messy.
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Gadianton wrote:Mormonism for all intents and purposes is polytheistic. there may be some quibbling. But the whole grain of humanoid Gods with beards who live on different planets as animals inside the universe and all that goes against monotheism. Even if Mormons only believed in a single man/God it wouldn't be "Monotheism" the way "theists" (book of John onward) believe in God.

Anyway, since Mormons do believe in man/Gods, billions of them and more, it would at least be a technical possibility for an entrepreneur to get lucky with his camera and go to work on a calander.



Gadianton is, for all intents and purposes, incapable of the simple logical, rational thought processes that would allow him to discuss things like this with LDS in any productive manner.

All Gad would have to do is some basic reading on the subject and he would understand that polytheism is only cosmetically related to the concept of a plurality of gods.
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By the way, one of the things that I think is completely stupid from both sides of the conversation of "poly", "mono", or whatever, Mormons nor anyone else living in 2008 have anything to do with a culture 4,000 years old. Your similarities and differences are pretty superficial.
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Droopy wrote:
This may bring a bit of ridicule my way, but I believed, at one time, that God brought me out of Mormonism. I'm not sure I still believe that, but the conviction was once quite strong. I began questioning Mormonism while studying the New Testament in Gospel Doctrine class. I began to feel more and more ill at ease with certain doctrines, and decided to do more research. I was stunned by what I found, and my shelf of doubts became heavier and heavier, straining to remain intact. I prayed night and day, more than I'd ever before prayed in my life, for God to restore my full testimony.



Finally, the standard, formatted, cookie cutter EV coming out story from Kimberly.

Actually, I thought she might actually be able to come up with something just a tad more original.

Oh well.


What part of her comments above suggests "cookie cutter EV coming out story"? I'd seriously like to know what part of that you see as EV in origin.
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BY seemed to think that Adam was pretty important. To the point of being the only God we have anything to do with.


This has to do with Adam's position regarding Priesthood authority (to the degree that the Adam he mentions here is the same Adam who is the Father of the human race), and not a singular status as our god.


You discount the LoF, but they were lectures given by the founder of your church.


They were written by Sidney Rigdon

You know, the head of this dispensation. The inconsistency in teachings and doctrine displayed by members and leaders alike is astounding. I don’t know if it is just ignorance or just desperate attempts to make all the weirdness palatable.


I know of no inconsistency in official, settled doctrine binding upon the members of the Church


The fact that you have made 8 posts in the last 45 minutes tells me a nerve as been touched. A little advice; there is a limit to what will fit on the shelf, even for you. Once that bad boy begins to crack, get out of the way, because when things come tumbling down it will be messy.


You should probably do less psycholgizing and more serious reading in your spare time.
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bcspace wrote:
What are you talking about?? They worship God the Father, Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith. Sounds like polytheism to me.


What is the doctrine on who we pray to?


Who you pray to or worship has no bearing whatsoever on the issue of polytheism, bc.
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What part of her comments above suggests "cookie cutter EV coming out story"? I'd seriously like to know what part of that you see as EV in origin.



The first two paragraphs especially. Both of them could have come right out of a CRI pamphet from the late seventies unmodified.

The rest of the story also follows a standard format common to EV exit stories of the past 30 years at least.
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Loran wrote:No. Polytheism posits a pantheon of beings, each and every one of which can be worshiped alternatively, or simultaneously as gods with various functions or areas of control.


Nonsense. Polytheism is in no way limited to a pantheon of beings.
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Droopy wrote:
What part of her comments above suggests "cookie cutter EV coming out story"? I'd seriously like to know what part of that you see as EV in origin.



The first two paragraphs. Both of them could have come right out of a CRI pamphet from the late seventies unmodified.


Could you be more specific? She studied, she prayed. This suggests EV to you?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Loran wrote:No. Polytheism posits a pantheon of beings, each and every one of which can be worshiped alternatively, or simultaneously as gods with various functions or areas of control.


Nonsense. Polytheism is in no way limited to a pantheon of beings.



Sarcastic remarks, well deserved and which Jersey Girl just brought upon herself, have been removed prior to posting.

Polytheism claims the existence of many gods, all of whom may be worshiped. Mormonism does not.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


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- Thomas Sowell
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