Hammer got hammered

[_beastie]

I thought Lee Universe was rcrocket, if I'm not mistaken.

No, crocket posted as bishop lee or something like that.

Lee Universe did post here briefly. He was seriously addicted to MAD, I'm surprised he's not still there, if he's not.

[_GoodK]

Is that all? There are statements in the Bible and Book of Mormon that are far worse.

So you agree that I would have been better off dying in infancy than leaving the church?

I'm simply showing that there are worse things that can be said (quoting the scriptures) without banning.

More reason to toss both crappy books in the trash can.

[Anonymous]

Several years ago I posted on MAD about some deeply personal family issues dealing with family medical issues. Hammer, then posting as Serious, wrote some cruel things in response. Due to that incident, among others, I held a long-term, off and on again grudge against him.

A year or so ago, in what I see now as a moment of weakness, I responded to an inquiry from Mr. Scratch about Hammer’s former identity. This was my sole case of being one of Scratch’s informants, and I’m not proud of it. Perhaps it is in penance of this act that I feel obligated to speak against those who would deride Hammer. Perhaps it is because I’ve taken an inordinate interest in his posts over the years, know his in real life identity, and feel that I’ve come to a better understanding of who he is over time. Whatever the case, I’ve had some negative and positive interaction with him through the years, and I feel that acknowledgement of his positive side has been neglected due to his unusual and often inflammatory comments.

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Just a thought……

cacheman

[_solomarineris]

"mms"]Selek said this about me and was not even suspended.

Probably because you didn't suck-up well enough to those Gorditto/Bitches.

[_EAllusion]

Several years ago I posted on MAD about some deeply personal family issues dealing with family medical issues. Hammer, then posting as Serious, wrote some cruel things in response. Due to that incident, among others, I held a long-term, off and on again grudge against him.

A year or so ago, in what I see now as a moment of weakness, I responded to an inquiry from Mr. Scratch about Hammer’s former identity. This was my sole case of being one of Scratch’s informants, and I’m not proud of it. Perhaps it is in penance of this act that I feel obligated to speak against those who would deride Hammer. Perhaps it is because I’ve taken an inordinate interest in his posts over the years, know his in real life identity, and feel that I’ve come to a better understanding of who he is over time. Whatever the case, I’ve had some negative and positive interaction with him through the years, and I feel that acknowledgement of his positive side has been neglected due to his unusual and often inflammatory comments.

Maybe we should remember that like everyone, he’s dealing with his own life issues, and that some of his thought processes may not be totally under his control. I think that he’s a good person that is haunted by his own ‘demons’, and that it is my responsibility to forgive him, for he knows not what he does.

Just a thought……

cacheman

I think you are insinuating some fairly negative things but keeping it vague enough to let imaginations run wild. That can be more cruel than simply being upfront with criticisms of character. Personally, I take this post to mean you are implying he is mentally ill so people should lay off a little.

[Doctor Steuss]

Several years ago I posted on MAD about some deeply personal family issues dealing with family medical issues. Hammer, then posting as Serious, wrote some cruel things in response. Due to that incident, among others, I held a long-term, off and on again grudge against him.

I remember that time he said [...] Oh boy did you go after him! That was a side of you I'd never seen before, and haven't seen since. Not that I had/have a problem with it.

I don't think we should have to take into account his real life situation(s). We only know how he behaves on the boards, and that's righly what we respond to. It can only get personal if you choose to introduce personal information....


[edit: I just realized I didn't need to introduce the details of what he said to provoke you. It's enough for me to say that your response was completely justified, no matter what his real life situation is. We can't sit by and let slander go unchallenged, no matter who is doing it or why.]

[_cacheman]

I don't think we should have to take into account his real life situation(s). We only know how he behaves on the boards, and that's righly what we respond to. It can only get personal if you choose to introduce personal information....

I probably should've simply stated that people should cut him some slack. I think that I mistakenly injected some personal information that I thought would help others understand why I was making the suggestion. In hindsight, I think I was careless in my posting, and I appreciate EA and yourself pointing that out.

cacheman

[_moksha]

I thought Lee Universe was rcrocket, if I'm not mistaken.

Lee Universe is a younger guy from Nevada.

[_EAllusion]

Lee's writing style makes him very easy to identify. He'd have to alter it significantly not to be noticed. And knowing Lee and his writing style, that probably would be very hard for him to do.

[_beastie]

Lee's writing style makes him very easy to identify. He'd have to alter it significantly not to be noticed. And knowing Lee and his writing style, that probably would be very hard for him to do.

He'd also have to refrain from posting Chapman's horse article* for a month or two. I don't think he can do it.


(*an infamous piece of apologia that cites known frauds as evidence for the horse**)

(**must not mention Wisconsin horse and fair dvd... must not mention Wisconsin horse and fair dvd...must not mention Wisconsin horse and fair dvd...)