The Missing Papyrus Equation

[_christopher]

In conclusion, it appears that Gee's vastly inflated length for the missing portion is the result of faulty measurement. Properly considered, the missing-papyrus-equation seems to leave his theory fatally crippled and without a leg to stand on.

Best,

-Chris

OK, step back and think about it for a second. Mormon apologetics has been reduced, or at least gotten to the point of having to argue (read fog) about the diameter of a roll for missing pieces, while on the other hand they are also arguing that the Book of Abraham is just a catalyst for an inspired translation because when pressed, the translations don't match.

Which is it....do they need the however long missing pieces to do a translation or did Joseph not really need anything because it was just inspired?

Chris <><

[_CaliforniaKid]

It would be interesting to see his list of assumptions.

As far as I can tell, the two big ones are that there is no core and that the S-value of the missing portion can be predicted by extrapolating from the extant portion.

[_Runtu]

It would be interesting to see his list of assumptions.

As far as I can tell, the two big ones are that there is no core and that the S-value of the missing portion can be predicted by extrapolating from the extant portion.

The larger assumption is that the Book of Abraham came from something written on the papyrus. Since nothing extant is related to the text (except the facsimiles), Gee has to find a reason for significant amounts of missing scroll.

[_Mad Viking]

It would be interesting to see his list of assumptions.

As far as I can tell, the two big ones are that there is no core and that the S-value of the missing portion can be predicted by extrapolating from the extant portion.

To be honest, I had always assumed that his 20+ foot scroll assertions were based on other BoB scrolls in the possesion of Egyptologists. I had no idea that he was basing his assertion on the assumption that because the fragments that the church now has weren't rolled up as tight as they could be, so there must be more scroll that was rolled up extremely tight. How ridiculous.

[_Mad Viking]

... Gee has to find a reason for significant amounts of missing scroll.

The reason is that Joseph just has to be a prophet. He just has to be.

[_Trevor]

Chris,

First of all, good work.

Second, here is what I have been able to track down on the source Gee is using. The author is named Friedhelm Hoffmann. The piece he wrote is probably, "Der Anfang des Papyrus Spiegelberg--Ein Versuch zur Wiederherstellung," in S. P. Vleeming (ed.), Hundred-Gated Thebes: Acts of a Colloquium on Thebes and the Theban Area in Greco-Roman Antiquity (Leiden: Brill, 1995), 43-60.

This book can be found in the J. Willard Marriott Library at the University of Utah. Here is its call number: PA3301 .P34 v.27

As for the German, good luck. It is not an easy language.

[Reflexzero]

I can't get it any longer than 7 ft.

(Just passing through)

[_beastie]

::::roaring laughter::::

[_CaliforniaKid]

Chris,

First of all, good work.

Second, here is what I have been able to track down on the source Gee is using. The author is named Friedhelm Hoffmann. The piece he wrote is probably, "Der Anfang des Papyrus Spiegelberg--Ein Versuch zur Wiederherstellung," in S. P. Vleeming (ed.), Hundred-Gated Thebes: Acts of a Colloquium on Thebes and the Theban Area in Greco-Roman Antiquity (Leiden: Brill, 1995), 43-60.

This book can be found in the J. Willard Marriott Library at the University of Utah. Here is its call number: PA3301 .P34 v.27

As for the German, good luck. It is not an easy language.

Trevor,

Thanks!!! I will be taking a German for Reading class this semester, so maybe I'll have occasion to work through this article a bit and try to decipher the derivation of the equation.

[_Mad Viking]

I can't get it any longer than 7 ft.

(Just passing through)

My polygamous wives wish.