They Shoot MAD Horses, Don't They?

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_beastie
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You're right, it is the bottom row, middle frame. It was obvious as soon as you pointed it out. Kaching! Score! I may have to edit my website to add this additional debunker.

Yep, I looked at one of the webshot links you provided "the horse!" and you can tell by the panel beside it that it is the bottom row, middle frame. Good catch! You get a brownie point for solving the mystery.

The problem is that the people seeing "horses" and "elephants" in this imagery really don't understand Mayan imagery to begin with. It had its own unique style. I'm certainly not an expert, either, but at least I understand the impact of their stylized god images on their overall art. For example, the elongated "elephant" nose:

Chaak is the Yucatec Maya word for "thunder," a fitting name for the god of rain. The large temple mask at left is from Kabah, a city from the Puuc region of northwest Yucatán. Its curled nose is an exaggerated form of the pointed nose that usually characterizes Chaak; the nose is said to scratch the clouds to bring the rain, or its downward-pointing nose could represent the shape of a whirlwind itself. A pair of fangs at the mouth corners that identify Chaak also appear in this mask. In modern Maya folklore, the rain god often keeps his waters in jars that he releases to pour the necessary rains. The Mayapán effigy censer at right is another outstanding representation of Maya polychrome ceramic. The sculpture may represent either a priest, clad in the garments symbolizing the Rain God Chaak, or Chaak himself. NMAH


http://members.aol.com/hmupuni/deity.htm

I've said it before, I'll say it again - the biggest problem with Book of Mormon apologetics is that the target audience simply does not have adequate background knowledge to judge these claims, and those apologists who do and know better, often remain silent. I will give Brant kudos for rejecting the Done photo as a horse (as Sorenson did before him).
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cool. when does it come from?
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The alignment's not quite there (on my end) yet, but goodness...

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The funny part about the LDS zeal to find historical horses (or steel or whatever..) it still does nothing to actually prove the Book of Mormon..
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I see a man feeding the loch ness monster!
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perfect match...great catch, Chris

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I think it looks more like a horse on the wall than in the overlay. Where is the second picture from?

Hey the man is wearing a back pack
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JonasS wrote:I think it looks more like a horse on the wall than in the overlay. Where is the second picture from?

Hey the man is wearing a back pack


Looks like a man walking beside a waist-high animal to me, especially on the wall. The overlay is the picture beastie referenced in her first post--the pic some LDS (not, notably, Brant Gardner) believe to be a horse.
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cksalmon wrote:
JonasS wrote:I think it looks more like a horse on the wall than in the overlay. Where is the second picture from?

Hey the man is wearing a back pack


Looks like a man walking beside a waist-high animal to me, especially on the wall. The overlay is the picture beastie referenced in her first post--the pic some LDS (not, notably, Brant Gardner) believe to be a horse.


I meant on the wall it is clearer. Maybe it's a pony lol, it did look like her was going to ride it or make it carry things.
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Post by _harmony »

Llama or alpaca? It's not near big enough or in proportion to the human figure to be a horse.
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