Trevor wrote:The difference is that they presume to identify defects in his behavior as a member of the LDS Church and then use that as a criticism of his theory. By taking this job upon themselves, they clearly have stepped over the line of academic review and have essentially arrogated to themselves the Church's role in counseling its members.
I think they actually are just giving their opinions to their readers....like most people who write.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:I think they actually are just giving their opinions to their readers....like most people who write.
So, where, then, did they say in their pronouncement that "members would do well to heed the..." that this was all just their friendly opinion?
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The Nehor wrote:I think they actually are just giving their opinions to their readers....like most people who write.
So, where, then, did they say in their pronouncement that "members would do well to heed the..." that this was all just their friendly opinion?
Yes. Just like I would advise anyone over 220 lbs. that's not an athlete or a bodybuilder that they should heed the counsel of medical science and lose some weight. My friendly opinion.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:Yes. Just like I would advise anyone over 220 lbs. that's not an athlete or a bodybuilder that they should heed the counsel of medical science and lose some weight. My friendly opinion.
Seems to me that you are being deliberately obtuse. Thanks for you opinion.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
The Nehor wrote:Yes. Just like I would advise anyone over 220 lbs. that's not an athlete or a bodybuilder that they should heed the counsel of medical science and lose some weight. My friendly opinion.
Seems to me that you are being deliberately obtuse. Thanks for you opinion.
No, I'm just stating that you have to take what they say in context. I can stand up in Sacrament Meeting and solemnly state during Testimony meeting that anyone who doesn't believe Adam was over 900 years old is going to hell. I could post it on this messageboard. I can declare it on webpages and tell all my friends. That doesn't make it mean much more then me saying casually that I think Adam actually did live that long. People without authority often automatically still speak as if they have it. It means roughly nothing.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:No, I'm just stating that you have to take what they say in context. I can stand up in Sacrament Meeting and solemnly state during Testimony meeting that anyone who doesn't believe Adam was over 900 years old is going to hell. I could post it on this messageboard. I can declare it on webpages and tell all my friends. That doesn't make it mean much more then me saying casually that I think Adam actually did live that long. People without authority often automatically still speak as if they have it. It means roughly nothing.
Nehor, there is a distinct difference, and an important one, between the authority they technically have, and therefore how you are entitled to regard their statements, and what they imply in their rhetoric, their stress on GA approval and official use of their materials at LDS.org, and their condemnation of Meldrum on ecclesiastical grounds. The person who gets up in testimony meeting to make oddball claims is not generally using past links to his writings on LDS.org as backup for his opinions, nor is he generally using his beliefs about Adam as an axe to condemn your pet theories publicly. When such a person does so, he or she is generally counseled by those in actual authority to stop. And this is precisely my point; by taking this position themselves, as counselors to Meldrum, the folks at FAIR are giving the impression FAIR has an authority it does not in fact possess.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
The Nehor wrote:No, I'm just stating that you have to take what they say in context. I can stand up in Sacrament Meeting and solemnly state during Testimony meeting that anyone who doesn't believe Adam was over 900 years old is going to hell. I could post it on this messageboard. I can declare it on webpages and tell all my friends. That doesn't make it mean much more then me saying casually that I think Adam actually did live that long. People without authority often automatically still speak as if they have it. It means roughly nothing.
Nehor, there is a distinct difference, and an important one, between the authority they technically have, and therefore how you are entitled to regard their statements, and what they imply in their rhetoric, their stress on GA approval and official use of their materials at LDS.org, and their condemnation of Meldrum on ecclesiastical grounds. The person who gets up in testimony meeting to make oddball claims is not generally using past links to his writings on LDS.org as backup for his opinions, nor is he generally using his beliefs about Adam as an axe to condemn your pet theories publicly. When such a person does so, he or she is generally counseled by those in actual authority to stop. And this is precisely my point; by taking this position themselves, as counselors to Meldrum, the folks at FAIR are giving the impression FAIR has an authority it does not in fact possess.
I don't see a difference.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
The Nehor wrote:Yes. Just like I would advise anyone over 220 lbs. that's not an athlete or a bodybuilder that they should heed the counsel of medical science and lose some weight. My friendly opinion.
Seems to me that you are being deliberately obtuse. Thanks for you opinion.
Maybe he's just being deliberately obese. Isn't Nehor some kind of athelete or something?
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