Reporting Crockett to the Bar

Post by **_Trevor** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:49 pm

Although I am all in favor of resolving grievances without resort to people like Bob, I do see how we got here. It doesn't take a genius to see that Bob's repeated, subtle threats (legal included) against everyone here who posts anonymously might land him with a complaint at his own doorstep. I am not inclined to think there is much in the way of a basis for a complaint, but why not file it? If it doesn't take hold, it is harmless. Bob doesn't seem particularly concerned anyway. Maybe this will just go down as an interesting, albeit failed, experiment.

Post by **_beastie** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:50 pm

I'm kind of curious as to when you think I have ever intruded on anybody's personal life? In GoodK's case, he made public a very private email. I never even made connection with his father on the subject because his father was 24/7 in a hospital at the time and then I gave up.

You've provided conflicting information on whether or not you contacted GoodK's father. I have no idea what the truth is, but if you did not contact him, it wasn't for lack of trying. That is intruding in someone's personal life.

It seems that if somebody discusses their private lives here on the board (as you sometimes do, as does Harmony and others), isn't that fair game for comment? When have I ever transcended the four corners of any post and gone after a private life. (You may recall that you, for instance, posted a lot of stuff about my family, about my sexuality and my wife's -- stuff I have never made available anywhere on this board to anybody.) You're just grossly hypocritical. But, that's ok. I don't mind.

You are a liar. I never "posted a lot of stuff about your family, your sexuality, your wife's". I made one joke that your wife probably had to lay back and think of England in order to conceive your children. That you continue to tell such egregious lies about what I said is more evidence supporting the statements I made about your posting characteristics.

Post by **_Trevor** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:51 pm

rcrocket wrote:I'm kind of curious as to when you think I have ever intruded on anybody's personal life? In GoodK's case, he made public a very private email. I never even made connection with his father on the subject because his father was 24/7 in a hospital at the time and then I gave up.

I seem to recall that you were the one taking credit from Dr. Peterson for having spilled the beans, why the sudden reversal?

Post by **_truth dancer** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:52 pm

Bob,

Maybe you could just apologize, say you are sorry for interfering, promise to lay off the nastiness and be more respectful?

This whole thing could end in a second or two... just sayin?

~dancer~

Post by **_Trevor** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:53 pm

beastie wrote:You are a liar. I never "posted a lot of stuff about your family, your sexuality, your wife's". I made one joke that your wife probably had to lay back and think of England in order to conceive your children. That you continue to tell such egregious lies about what I said is more evidence supporting the statements I made about your posting characteristics.

Looks like you have a point about Bob being a liar.

Post by **_moksha** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:00 pm

rcrocket wrote:
It seems that if somebody discusses their private lives here on the board (as you sometimes do, as does Harmony and others), isn't that fair game for comment?

Only for friendly and supportive banter. The process of attacking one another with items they have shared is really wrong. For instance, if Loran shared something about a problem with alcohol, the only comments that should ever be made is to congratulate his sobriety and encourage his resolve if he has a relapse. If GoodK where to share about a strain between he and father and his sister having an illness, then the only proper response would be to wish his sister well (and offer prayers for those of us who are religious) and to wish him a reconciliation with his father sometime in the future.

Post by **_Trevor** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:03 pm

moksha wrote:Only for friendly and supportive banter. The process of attacking one another with items they have shared is really wrong. For instance, if Loran shared something about a problem with alcohol, the only comments that should ever be made is to congratulate his sobriety and encourage his resolve if he has a relapse. If GoodK where to share about a strain between he and father and his sister having an illness, then the only proper response would be to wish his sister well (and offer prayers for those of us who are religious) and to wish him a reconciliation with his father sometime in the future.

I have to admit that I have fallen short of your standard in this regard.

Post by **_Rollo Tomasi** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:08 pm

rcrocket wrote:Even though I have lots of information about your private life (you've been in my house, after all, and have spent a couple of hours with me personally) I would never think to discuss the details here ....

But Bob would have no problem passing it on to GoodK's father.

But, when you exposed a little piece of your private life on this board by embarrassing your seriously-ill sister and your parents ....

GoodK did nothing of the sort. It was you and DCP who made all this "embarrassing" by running with it to GoodK's dad.

... well, I'm going to be a good friend to your dad.

With friends like you, who needs enemies?

(In the end, however, I never did connect with him about your email and I quit trying (recall, he was seriously distracted) when it became apparent that he learned about it from another source.)

Oh, great, so Bob tried his best, during GoodK's father's time of extreme need and stress, to play busybody. How noble of him.

That wasn't the source of the embarrassment to your family.

You and DCP are the source, Bishop Bob.

Mocking your father, calling him a blowhard, in the context of a battle for your sister's life, was shameful and terrible.

That's between GoodK and his father -- even more "shameful and terrible" was your intentional interference with that relationship.

A humiliating thing for both of them -- exposing the private health struggles of your sister for all to see.

No one here knew, Bob -- just you and DCP. No names were used. GoodK's father and sister knew nothing about it until either you, DCP, or both, gleefully snitched.

You really are embarrassing yourself, Bob. At least DCP had the sense to slink away when exposed as a malicious busybody, but you just come back for more punishment. Carry on, counselor.

_GoodK · Post by **_GoodK** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:17 pm

rcrocket wrote:Your challenges are self-apparent from your posts.

This is exactly why I am doing this. You know nothing about any "challenges" I may have, and while everyone is faced with challenges, your elluding to some secret you want people to think you know about me is filthy.

It is typical of those that work for the FARMS review of authors.

I imply nothing else.

You know nothing.

Even though I have lots of information about your private life (you've been in my house, after all, and have spent a couple of hours with me personally)

No you don't. I haven't lived at my parents house for over 7 years, our meeting was likely more than 10 years ago. Again, this is filthy.

I would never think to discuss the details here --

Haha. No, not you. Insinuating that I have some deep dark secret you know about, you wouldn't do that either, would ya?

despite the fact that you have made disparaging remarks about my private life and position,

I have told the truth, except when I have defended you and called you a "good guy" - that was a lie.

my purported (and falsely so) wealth (exposing me to repeated mockery from several here),

I don't believe I did, but if I did, I was telling the truth. You are wealthy. Why be offended by that? It's nothing to be ashamed of.

have published my phone numbers,

After warning you to stop. I gave you fair warning Mr. Crockett.
I'm not a kid anymore. If this is a pissing contest, I'm more than game.

and have referred to one of my children by name several times.

I mentioned her because I am shocked that you would have anything to do with something so lovely. I still am. The statement reminds me of something you said, about three months ago:

rcrocket wrote:I can't imagine any member of that family resorting to extortion so I doubt GoodK[***** *****] is who he/she says he/she is. I have met the kids and they are the greatest.

But, when you exposed a little piece of your private life on this board by embarrassing your seriously-ill sister and your parents,

Here you go again. This is why I am complaining to the Bar about you and this is why this situation will continue to escalate. You continue to make that accusation. If you want me to stop, you stop. And apologize.

(In the end, however, I never did connect with him about your email and I quit trying (recall, he was seriously distracted) when it became apparent that he learned about it from another source.)

I do remember. I also remember you have taken credit for sending the email on this board, in some weird display of brown-nosing DCP that I have never seen before.

But in case you are confused, my issue is not whether or not you sent him the post. My issue is what you continue to accuse me of. Even after I have requested that you stop.

Mocking your father, calling him a blowhard, in the context of a battle for your sister's life, was shameful and terrible. A humiliating thing for both of them -- exposing the private health struggles of your sister for all to see.

No it was not.

I am ashamed of nothing in my life, besides my dad's choice to be blinded by an obvious hoax and burden the rest of my family with that hoax.

His email was embarrasing and offensive. I was offended by it.

But I had the restraint to bite my tongue becuase of the timing. You didn't. Dan Peterson didn't.
You two are responsible for any "humiliation" that was a result of my dad trying to convince me (and a hundred others) that my sister was being healed by vegetable oil and fairy tales.

You can keep saying the words, but no one seems to believe them. I certainly don't.

Providing somebody legal advice when he asks for it and gets it makes him a client. Payment doesn't have to seal the deal. I am not at liberty to discuss the circumstances. "Alright?"

You said you would refer him to an attorney in the area. He told me you never did. I guess he isn't your client, is he? I once got advice from Gloria Alred's firm, does that mean I can tell people Gloria Alred is my attorney?

But hey, I hear only the lower parts of your legs will burn if your pants are still on fire.

_GoodK · Post by **_GoodK** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:22 pm

Rollo Tomasi wrote:Oh, great, so Bob tried his best, during GoodK's father's time of extreme need and stress, to play busybody. How noble of him.

Of course my extreme time of need and stress with my little sister in the hospital was never part of the equation. Maybe if I had given 10% of all my money to a greedy Salt Lake City corporation the two Bishops would have thought about how their gossip would impact all of the members of the family.