The Nehor wrote:Yes. Just like I would advise anyone over 220 lbs. that's not an athlete or a bodybuilder that they should heed the counsel of medical science and lose some weight. My friendly opinion.
Seems to me that you are being deliberately obtuse. Thanks for you opinion.
Maybe he's just being deliberately obese. Isn't Nehor some kind of athelete or something?
I don't think he's an athlete, but he was great in Term of Endearment.
The Nehor wrote:Yes. Just like I would advise anyone over 220 lbs. that's not an athlete or a bodybuilder that they should heed the counsel of medical science and lose some weight. My friendly opinion.
Seems to me that you are being deliberately obtuse. Thanks for you opinion.
Maybe he's just being deliberately obese. Isn't Nehor some kind of athelete or something?
No, being deliberately obese involves too much eating. I'm not an athlete in any professional sense though I do keep in shape and participate in sports on amateur levels for fun.
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I'm actually offended by the way FAIR refers to Meldrum as Mr. Meldrum. It's a body-slam. I can't think of a similar circumstance, where church members, discussing the church, referred to other church members as "Mr." rather than "Brother". It's as if FAIR wishes to delegitemize Meldrum's work not only on the basis of his not having explicit church authority, but even calling into question the implied co-equal status of Meldrum as a fellow member of the church. I think a lot of LDS tend to discredit almost anything that non-LDS say about religion (because, not being LDS, the others don't have "the Truth"), and this use of "Mr." by FAIR seems to be aimed at influencing LDS members not to take him seriously.
Can any of you think of a similar example of LDS refusing to use church-traditional greetings regarding another, known church member, when discussing the church or church doctrine? I can't.
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Sethbag wrote:I'm actually offended by the way FAIR refers to Meldrum as Mr. Meldrum. It's a body-slam. I can't think of a similar circumstance, where church members, discussing the church, referred to other church members as "Mr." rather than "Brother". It's as if FAIR wishes to delegitemize Meldrum's work not only on the basis of his not having explicit church authority, but even calling into question the implied co-equal status of Meldrum as a fellow member of the church. I think a lot of LDS tend to discredit almost anything that non-LDS say about religion (because, not being LDS, the others don't have "the Truth"), and this use of "Mr." by FAIR seems to be aimed at influencing LDS members not to take him seriously.
Can any of you think of a similar example of LDS refusing to use church-traditional greetings regarding another, known church member, when discussing the church or church doctrine? I can't.
Within the context of LDS fellowship, it is frankly inappropriate. It is as though they are suggesting he has stepped beyond the bounds of fellowship, when he is as of yet a member in full fellowship. But this is one of the problems I have seen in the whole apologetic game. They don't reserve their barbs for enemies of the faith. They also spend plenty of time attacking fellow saints. As if the first part were not bad enough. That they get away with the second, with no repercussions from their ecclesiastical leaders, really makes me wonder who is watching the watchmen.
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Wow. Again I find myself in awe at your ability to assess a situation. The "Mr." just looked wrong to me but I couldn't put my finger on why!
Absolutely, this was very disrespectful by FAIR and really seals the case for their lack of integrity, not to mention it terrible PR.
Sometimes I wonder if FARMS generally supports FAIR merely to show why the church needs to fund a professional apologetic arm such as themselves.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
Sethbag wrote:Can any of you think of a similar example of LDS refusing to use church-traditional greetings regarding another, known church member, when discussing the church or church doctrine? I can't.
Nope. I would describe FAIR's action in this regard as a totally dick move.
silentkid wrote:Nope. I would describe FAIR's action in this regard as a totally dick move.
Amen, brah.
“I was hooked from the start,” Snoop Dogg said. “We talked about the purpose of life, played Mousetrap, and ate brownies. The kids thought it was off the hook, for real.”
Wow. Again I find myself in awe at your ability to assess a situation. The "Mr." just looked wrong to me but I couldn't put my finger on why!
Absolutely, this was very disrespectful by FAIR and really seals the case for their lack of integrity, not to mention it terrible PR.
Sometimes I wonder if FARMS generally supports FAIR merely to show why the church needs to fund a professional apologetic arm such as themselves.
This is common apologetic practice (and which we see from Dr. P frequently here). It's some kind of crazy thinking that rhetorical flourishes, jabs, tricks, etc. somehow make their arguments all that much stronger. Can't offer actual evidence to support your arguments, well then liberally employ rhetorical flourishes, and, viola, you've won the day. What person or what argument can stand up against such witty rhetorical repartee?
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