Gaz advocates death by blood atonement for Chad Hardy?

[_Tarski]

Ren,

You really do see this as a reasonable response. Don't you. You aren't kidding...

In the case of the unrepentant member? Yes....

Do you have a similar fate in mind for uppity n****s, er, black people?

Unbelievable.

[_Tarski]

I think this is what you were talking about, Jersey Girl ;)

Nice legs. LOL

[_Hally McIlrath]

Yeah, too late. So he's talking about people who are attracted to Bambi.

I don't think it's that, exactly, I think it's more that people like to dress up like Bambi. They're attracted to humans, they aren't attracted to animals; they just like to dress up in animal costumes. You know, like for Halloween, except not only on Halloween.

I THINK. I'm not really sure, since I don't really understand the attraction myself.

[_asbestosman]

As to the Second Coming, LDS believe that Jesus will rule the earth both spiritually and politically.

I get it. So what happens when (I'm going off on a tangent a.k.a. the wrong road so bear with me) it is discovered that the Book of Mormon was really written by a Baptist preacher...will all LDS become Baptists then?

Hopefully they'll be Christians. ;)

Honestly, I don't get your question. From our POV, that simply won't happen. It's like asking what your or I will do when we find out that the Hindus wrote the Bible.

I would also think that blood atonement will not happen at that time since we believe that only those sufficiently rightous well remain and that Satan will be bound in the first place. Nobody will commit adultery, murder, etc., during the millenium so nobody will be punished for it.

Okay, so right there, what Gaz is saying makes no theological/doctrinal sense to begin with. I hope he comes back and reads these comments by knowledgeable LDS.

Yes, I don't think what Gaz is saying makes any doctrinal sense to begin with. D&C 136 + our understanding of the millenium precludes blood atonement let alone the fact that I cannot find blood atonement in any official sources.

[_The Nehor]

Okay, now someone explain to me what Nehor was on about regarding Blood Atonement not being possible until the Second Coming. Is that because LDS believe a theocracy will be instituted at that time that allows for Blood Atonement? If so, does that mean that they believe Christ will command it or come in the clouds sword in hand and go about slitting throats himself?

No need to go around slitting throats, just burned at his coming.

[_The Nehor]

ab man,

What do LDS believe constitutes blasphemy against the Holy Ghost? Just curious.

Can I take a stab at this. This is the kind of person who will get to Judgement Day with this kind of mentality.

God: Welcome home my child. I have prepared a place for you where you may become like me.
P: I hate you and all you stand for. I want none of your gifts.
God: Then perhaps a place in the Terrestrial Kingdom will suit you, further removed from me and experiencing my glory through my Son alone.
P: I despise your Son too. I want to be free of the both of you.
God: I have a place in the Telestial, farther from my presence whose glory and joy surpasses all description where I am only through the medium of the Holy Ghost. There you can enjoy only a small amount of my glory
P: I don't think you're listening. I want nothing of yours. I want total independence. I want to be where you and your influence are not.
God: I am the source of all that is good. To leave my presence entirely is to forsake all of it.
P: So be it. I want you to leave me the hell alone forever!!!!
God: Your wish is granted.

And alas, he grants it.

[_Ren]

Okay, so right there, what Gaz is saying makes no theological/doctrinal sense to begin with.

...it makes no sense on a whole ream of levels - as has been mentioned.

* Gaz mentions the option of 'repenting' of the sin involved, which directly contradicts the very idea of 'Blood Atonement'.
* There will be no death in the millennium.
* No 'evil-doers' will remain by the millennium.

...and of course, the very concept of 'Blood atonement' has it's problems.

* Sins that 'cannot be forgiven' - ermm, well - actually can be forgiven. Ermm, yeah...
* In the case of forcing 'Blood Atonement' upon a person, it goes against the entire plan of salvation. Since when was forcing repentance upon another person a part of the plan of salvation?!

"Yeah - I was all set for Outer Darkness, but good old Gazaleam came along and kindly slit my throat for me. I didn't even want to repent! But fine, upstanding Gaz made my decision for me - and now here I am kicking it in a kingdom of glory. Cheers Gaz..."


It's so stupid, it's funny. Well - it would be funny if it didn't involve - you know - people dying. And stuff..

[_EAllusion]

And WTH is a "furrie"?

A person whose sexual fetish is either themselves or others dressing up in furry costumes, usually the kind you'd expect a team mascot to wear.




It's an odd kink, but quite harmless.

There probably is a biological basis for why some things are apt to become fetishes while other things are not, and in what frequency. Some things are very apt to become a sexual kink, others are less likely, and some things just don't do it. Foot fetishes are extremely common. It strikes me as weird on a personal level, but statistics suggest a substantial subset of people will develop them from all walks of life. There's almost certainly been at least one Mormon apostle who had a serious foot fetish. Maybe Gazelam has one.

[_EAllusion]

All of those things pedophiles, etc, aren't sexual orientations.

Being sexually attracted to young children strikes me as an orientation. It doesn't matter if pedophilia is an orientation or not, chosen or not, congenital or not. Acting on such attractions are wrong either way. That doesn't translate to homosexuality, because there's no sound moral basis for condemning it.

[_Jason Bourne]

That was the type of imagery I had in mind as well. So the sword isn't symbolic, it's for slitting throats. You know, they never taught me that in Sunday School, GoodK. Must have had a milk before meat before blood policy or something.

Gotta tell you Jersey Girl, I know we are talking LDS things here but after reading the Left Behind Series it seems clear to me that some EVs are least believe that GOd is going to slaughter most of the non Christian Heathens that are left behind. And in book 12 where Jesus makes his appearance he spends a good part of the time walking through the air exploding the heads of humans who are not Christians quoting scripture all the while.

I know these are novels but I think there are based in End Times beliefs and doctrine of a lot of Christians. The image of Jesus on the horse fits perfect with the books.