Keeping Religious Zealots Out of Power

Post by **_Droopy** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:57 am

Gaz is really very, very far outside Gospel doctrine here. Theocracy in no way implies the Law of Moses, which was fulfilled in Christ and who's rituals, outward ordinances, as well as legal structures were ended. Any new theocracy, such as that which will exist in the New Jerusalem to be built in Jackson County, will be a theocracy under the New and Everlasting Covenant, inaugurated by Christ in the Meridian of time and restored by Joseph in this last dispensation.

There is no reason to believe in a return of the harsh legal penalties of the ancient Mosaic law (capacitated for a very different people living under very different conditions) for similar sins. In the same sense, we should not expect a reinstitution of Old Testament economic laws in a Latter Day theocratic system.

Post by **_Gazelam** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:01 am

Jason,

Whoa there bubba, Adulterers who repent can still be exalted in LDS doctrine. Hell I hope you never have a kid who has sex before they are married. Well I hope they first because I do not believe it is a good thing to do.

Im talking about adultery that occurs when one sealed spouse cheats on another. That sealing is broken and done.

The same goes for an endowed individual who pursues a homosexual lifestyle. They are also damned.

Post by **_Jason Bourne** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:03 am

Gazelam wrote:Jason,

Whoa there bubba, Adulterers who repent can still be exalted in LDS doctrine. Hell I hope you never have a kid who has sex before they are married. Well I hope they first because I do not believe it is a good thing to do.

I'm talking about adultery that occurs when one sealed spouse cheats on another. That sealing is broken and done.

The same goes for an endowed individual who pursues a homosexual lifestyle. They are also damned.

A repentant adulterer can be forgiven and the sealing can still be in effect. Where do you get this strange idea?

Post by **_Gazelam** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:03 am

Ray A,

That was a great great post you had on page 7. Gives one much to consider

thank you

Gaz

Post by **_Gazelam** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:08 am

Jason,

See Gaz it does not say anything about YOU only forgiving the penetant. YOU have to forgive everyone. If not you are condemned. I think you are close to that condemnation based on your postings here. You need to repent. NOW.

point taken

Post by **_Gazelam** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:11 am

Beastie,

It really does make me despair for this world's future.

Now you know how I feel when I see every form of media I come in contact with riddled with homosexuals. Not to mention their parading around in public when I go to the mall or movies or any other place. How isa it possible people are so acceptin gof this? I don't understand it !!

Post by **_Gazelam** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:17 am

richardMdBorn wrote:I haven't read the whole thread, so I apologize if someone else has already quoted this. My text for Gaz is this
52and He sent messengers on ahead of Him, and they went and entered a village of the Samaritans to make arrangements for Him.
53But they did not receive Him, because He was traveling toward Jerusalem.
54When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?"
55But He turned and rebuked them, [and said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of;
56for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them."]
Luke 9

My original comments were made towards those who already know the gospel and choose to live against what they no to be true in the most atrocious way possible.

Post by **_beastie** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:19 am

Now you know how I feel when I see every form of media I come in contact with riddled with homosexuals. Not to mention their parading around in public when I go to the mall or movies or any other place. How isa it possible people are so acceptin gof this? I don't understand it !!

You're a homophobe, gaze. That term is probably overused and often inaccurate, but it is very accurate for your case. The rest of us accept this because we're not homophobes.

Honestly, I think you need help. I hope you can deal with this before you have children - or if you've already had children, as soon as possible. Your homophobia will infect them, and if one of them turns out to be gay, that will be one messed up human being. I'm not saying you have to "accept" homosexuality in terms of your religious worldview, but for criminy's sake, you gotta get beyond fantasizing about killing them - even if one were your own child. It is truly sick. A sickness that needs treatment. In fact, I bet if you went to your bishop and confessed that you fantasize about killing and gays, even if it were your own child, the bishop just might agree with me that you need help.

Post by **_Gazelam** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:20 am

Jason,

Why do you keep ignoring your own apostles that state the church does not know if it is a choice or nature. Why do you ingnore the command to forgive all even if they do not repent?

You presented your incorrect reading of the apostle before. Your focusing on the wrong part of the conversation. Go back and read it again.

_GoodK · Post by **_GoodK** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:23 am

Gazelam wrote:Beastie,

It really does make me despair for this world's future.

Now you know how I feel when I see every form of media I come in contact with riddled with homosexuals. Not to mention their parading around in public when I go to the mall or movies or any other place. How isa it possible people are so acceptin gof this? I don't understand it !!

What's so hard to understand? I am militantly heterosexual, yet I have no interest in the sexual preferences of others, gay or not - whatsoever. It's really quite simple to just live your own life and let others do the same. You should try it.