Hill Cumorah

Post by **_beastie** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:43 am

Well, then, feel free to give your corrections. Exactly how do you explain the fact that prophets and apostles, while functioning in those roles, supposedly under inspiration, in the name of JC, have, indeed, taught that Hill Cumorah is where the final scenes of the Book of Mormon took place? Or how do you explain JFSmith's statements in Doctrines of Salvation?

Post by **_Daniel Peterson** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:45 am

beastie wrote:Well, then, feel free to give your corrections. Exactly how do you explain the fact that prophets and apostles, while functioning in those roles, supposedly under inspiration, in the name of JC, have, indeed, taught that Hill Cumorah is where the final scenes of the Book of Mormon took place? Or how do you explain JFSmith's statements in Doctrines of Salvation?

I've already explained this several times over the past few days. Another repetition wouldn't make much difference, I suspect.

I'm starving for intellectual seriousness, so my wife and I are headed out for a movie.

Post by **_antishock8** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:47 am

Woah. I thought Mr. Peterson made himself clear earlier. Now he's saying that the NY site was not THE site where the final battle occurred, even though prophets made it clear that's the case.

Phew. Ok. Maybe a little clarification is order?

Post by **_beastie** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:53 am

I've already explained this several times over the past few days. Another repetition wouldn't make much difference, I suspect.

I'm starving for intellectual seriousness, so my wife and I are headed out for a movie.

Yes, I know, your explanation was that no one will be excommunicated for teaching the two Cumorah theory, and it's not a doctrine. Who cares??? It's been taught, over and over, to people who actually think that when the prophet or apostles teach things about the church or scriptures over the pulpit, that they've been inspired to teach correct principles.

The natural conclusion is that the prophets and apostles who taught these things were simply wrong. I know your thin skin cannot tolerate my bluntness, but the natural result of your logic is that these men weren't really inspired at all in their teachings, despite trying their best to be.

by the way, my movie suggestion would be a fantasy flick. It's where you'll be most at home.

Post by **_The Nehor** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:53 am

antishock8 wrote:Oh. Fatass McFatpants gets involved. What an amazing contribution to this thread you make, oh Pasty One. *rolling eyes* Please focus, some of us here are trying to get past the ad homs and actually learn something about the other.

You're fat.

This may be the most hilarious series of sentences I've read all day. Oh, and I'm laughing at you not with you.

Post by **_antishock8** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:20 am

The Nehor wrote:
antishock8 wrote:Oh. Fatass McFatpants gets involved. What an amazing contribution to this thread you make, oh Pasty One. *rolling eyes* Please focus, some of us here are trying to get past the ad homs and actually learn something about the other.

You're fat.

This may be the most hilarious series of sentences I've read all day. Oh, and I'm laughing at you not with you.

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Post by **_christopher** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:24 am

Daniel Peterson wrote:There is absolutely no official revelation stating that the hill of the last battles is located in what is today upstate New York. Period.

Where is the official revelation that hot drinks means coffee and tea? I could believe in 6 cumorahs and still go to the temple....not so if I partake of coffee.

Post by **_antishock8** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:29 am

Wait. This is absolutely crazy. Mormon PROPHETS have stated EXPLICITLY that THE hill Cumorah is THE hill Cumorah. And these guys are don't believe it. I'm blown away (no pun intended, Nehor). I don't get it. Seriously. How can these people disregard multiple prophetic assertions that THE hill Cumorah is THE hill Cumorah?

Post by **_beastie** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:31 am

Wait. This is absolutely crazy. Mormon PROPHETS have stated EXPLICITLY that THE hill Cumorah is THE hill Cumorah. And these guys are don't believe it. I'm blown away (no pun intended, Nehor). I don't get it. Seriously. How can these people disregard multiple prophetic assertions that THE hill Cumorah is THE hill Cumorah?

I already told you. It's not doctrine, it wasn't clearly labeled "revelation". Ignore at will.

I'd like to see any of these guys get up in sacrament meeting and explain how you get to ignore any prophetic teaching as long as it's not doctrine or identified as "revelation".

(and even revelation is no guarantee, didn't Joseph Smith say Zelph was revelation?)

Post by **_Dr. Shades** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:58 am

antishock8 wrote:I don't get it. Seriously. How can these people disregard multiple prophetic assertions that THE hill Cumorah is THE hill Cumorah?

Simple. They belong to a different religion. It's known as "Internet Mormonism."