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Never mind -- will put Bond in a tizzy...
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Where's the thread about the hundreds of thousands dead at Hill Cumorah? I'd like to see the replies about feeding them, but I'm not seeing the thread anymore.

Thanks.
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Hello,

I did lose one Post on this Message Board here. I had 665 Posts here, but I now have 664 Posts here. After I Post this Message of mine here, I will again have 665 Posts here.
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Brackite wrote:Hello,

I did lose one Post on this Message Board here. I had 665 Posts here, but I now have 664 Posts here. After I Post this Message of mine here, I will again have 665 Posts here.


I wish I'd lost about 3,000. Alas, I didn't.

Ooo, If I had then I would have exactly 666 posts right now!
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Moniker wrote:
Brackite wrote:Hello,

I did lose one Post on this Message Board here. I had 665 Posts here, but I now have 664 Posts here. After I Post this Message of mine here, I will again have 665 Posts here.


I wish I'd lost about 3,000. Alas, I didn't.

Ooo, If I had then I would have exactly 666 posts right now!



After I Post this Message of Mine, I will be at exactly 666 Posts here.
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Isn't the number of the beast actually supposed to 616 or somesuch? I dunno - I've smoked alot of weed in my day.

ETA: I left out the word "be." I blame weed.
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TrashcanMan79 wrote:Isn't the number of the beast actually supposed to 616 or somesuch? I dunno - I've smoked alot of weed in my day.



Hello! Here is some Information about this important subject, From An Wikipedia Article:

666

The Number of the Beast is described in the Book of Revelation 13:18. The original Greek reads:

ωδέ η σοφία εστίν; ο έχων νουν ψηφισάτω τον αριθμόν του θηρίου; αριθμός γαρ ανθρώπου εστί; και ο αριθμός αυτού χξϛ΄.

The King James translates:[5]

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

In the Greek manuscripts, the Number is rendered in Greek numerical form as χξϛ',[6] or sometimes literally as “six hundred and sixty-six”, “εξακοσιοι εξηκοντα εξ ”.[7][8] [hexakosioi hexékonta hex, lit. six hundred sixty six]

Scholars such as Dr. Ellen Aitken, Dean of the Faculty of Religious Studies at McGill University, have speculated that the reference to this passage was a way of speaking in code about then contemporary figures about whom it would have been politically dangerous to criticize openly.

Many scholars believe that 666 refers to a Roman Emperor such as Nero[9] (whose name, written in Aramaic, was valued at 666, using the Hebrew numerology of gematria, a manner of speaking against the emperor without the Roman authorities knowing).


616

In May 2005, it was reported that scholars at Oxford University using advanced imaging techniques[10] had been able to read previously illegible portions of the earliest known record of the Book of Revelation, from the Oxyrhynchus site, Papyrus 115 or P115, dating to the mid to late third century. The fragment gives the Number of the Beast as 616 (chi, iota, stigma), rather than the majority text 666 (chi, xi, stigma).[1] In Eastern Greek 616 is chi-iota-sigma or XIC. Eastern forms of Greek used the Lunate Sigma (which resembles an upper case C) as seen on many ancient Christian religious artifacts. The other early witness Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus (C) has it written in full: hexakosiai deka hex (lit. six hundred sixteen).[11]

Significantly, P115 aligns with Codex Alexandrinus (A) and Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus (C) which are generally regarded as providing the best testimony to Revelation. Thus, P115 has superior testimony to that of P47 which aligns with Codex Sinaiticus and together form the second-best witness to the Book of Revelation. This has led some scholars to conclude that 616 is the original number of the beast.[12][13]
Dr. Paul Lewes in his book, A Key to Christian Origins (1932) wrote:

"The figure 616 is given in one of the two best manuscripts, C (Codex Ephraemi Rescriptus, Paris), by the Latin version of Tyconius (DCXVI, ed. Souter in the Journal of Theology, SE, April 1913), and by an ancient Armenian version (ed. Conybaere, 1907). Irenaeus knew about it [the 616 reading], but did not adopt it (Haer. v.30,3), Jerome adopted it (De Monogramm., ed. Dom G Morin in the Rev. Benedictine, 1903). It is probably original. The number 666 has been substituted for 616 either by analogy with 888, the [Greek] number of Jesus (Deissmann), or because it is a triangular number, the sum of the first 36 numbers (1+2+3+4+5+6...+36 = 666)".[14]

Professor David Parker, Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism and Paleography at the University of Birmingham, thinks that 616, although less memorable than 666, is the original. Dr. Ellen Aitken said, “Scholars have argued for a long time over this, and it now seems that 616 was the original number of the beast. It's probably about 100 years before any other version."[15]

The early Church father Irenaeus knew several occurrences of the 616-variant but regarded them as a scribal error and affirmed that the number 666 stood "in all the most approved and ancient copies" and is attested by "those men who saw John face to face".[16]


Here is The Link to this Wikipedia Article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
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How do I change the size of the font for the whole site (but only on my system)? It's so small, I have trouble seeing it.
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harmony wrote:How do I change the size of the font for the whole site (but only on my system)? It's so small, I have trouble seeing it.


This is readable to me, but I remember not going to Kevin Graham's site specifically because the font there was too small for me to read.
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