How God Loves The Fearful And The Unbelieving

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_Jacob Welling
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How God Loves The Fearful And The Unbelieving

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I am done explaining everything I know and how I know it. It takes too much time and the unplugged just cannot get it anyway. So I will carry on as if somebody out there understands.

In the very first beginning man was light and truth or the intelligence of man was before it was organized into independent spheres of existence by the command of the Word of God and the obedience of those intelligences fearless enough to leave the warm fuzziness of that medium that fills the immensity of space and is in all things and through all things the power of God fully one with the Infinate Reality.

Faith or a lack of paraizing fear enables intelligence to obey and progress. Once standing seperate and independent as organized intelligence some of them lost their faith and feared to continue.
Those who believed in God and the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world took upon them the name of Jesus Christ and were allowed to continue to the next step.

These would be given seed bodies. That is seed bodies plural meaning first a spirit body and much much later in the reckoning of time they would enter this present world and be given a physical body.

Once again it is put to us to have faith and take upon us the name of Uesus Chrsit. Such to be enabled to continue worlds without end in the power and glory of a resurrection unto exaltation.

But now almost everyone is fearful and unbelieving. Because of this fear Satan has gained great power in the pride of man and is striving to defile all intelligence to commit and celebrate all manner of viciousness and evil. Satan ownd both sides of life the pious proud and the viciously vile. This because fear rules in the hearts of all men.

What do you do when a son or daughter is afraid? Do you yell at them and berate them and despize their lack of faith and loathe them for being so fearful? And even when this sort manage the entire world under their dominion and crucify the just and persecute and drive the saints should we not know of whence they are of and love them even though their fears and unbelief causes them to commit abomination?

I personally resented all persecutions I suffered from the arrogant hypocrisy that rules the LDS Church and is carried in every LDS heart I have yet encountered. They are weak and fearful and eventhough they seized control of everything they need afterall to still be pitied and sought out for repentance carefully and with tears.

If I can keep this knowledge as flontlets before my eyes perhaps I can get over the mocking rage of scorn I bear my enemies. I hereby resolve to square myself to this knowledge and act and feel and think and pray accordingly. Perhaps then I will be ready to reap.
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Re: How God Loves The Fearful And The Unbelieving

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Hi Jacob,

Welcome to the board.

I'm not sure what is going on, it sounds like I have missed the opening scene of a play and have to try to figure out what has gone on.

Sorry to hear you have been persecuted and hated.

Personally, I have met quite a few really great LDS people.

td
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Consider me unplugged. I do, however, really enjoy Smokey and the Bandit.
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Oink oink.
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Why didn't anyone tell me that JAK had a twin on the other side of the fence?
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Sethbag wrote:Oink oink.


I get it.
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Jacob Welling wrote:I am done explaining everything I know and how I know it. It takes too much time and the unplugged just cannot get it anyway. So I will carry on as if somebody out there understands.

In the very first beginning man was light and truth or the intelligence of man was before it was organized into independent spheres of existence by the command of the Word of God and the obedience of those intelligences fearless enough to leave the warm fuzziness of that medium that fills the immensity of space and is in all things and through all things the power of God fully one with the Infinate Reality.

Faith or a lack of paraizing fear enables intelligence to obey and progress. Once standing seperate and independent as organized intelligence some of them lost their faith and feared to continue.
Those who believed in God and the Lamb slain from the foundations of the world took upon them the name of Jesus Christ and were allowed to continue to the next step.

These would be given seed bodies. That is seed bodies plural meaning first a spirit body and much much later in the reckoning of time they would enter this present world and be given a physical body.

Once again it is put to us to have faith and take upon us the name of Uesus Chrsit. Such to be enabled to continue worlds without end in the power and glory of a resurrection unto exaltation.

But now almost everyone is fearful and unbelieving. Because of this fear Satan has gained great power in the pride of man and is striving to defile all intelligence to commit and celebrate all manner of viciousness and evil. Satan ownd both sides of life the pious proud and the viciously vile. This because fear rules in the hearts of all men.

What do you do when a son or daughter is afraid? Do you yell at them and berate them and despize their lack of faith and loathe them for being so fearful? And even when this sort manage the entire world under their dominion and crucify the just and persecute and drive the saints should we not know of whence they are of and love them even though their fears and unbelief causes them to commit abomination?

I personally resented all persecutions I suffered from the arrogant hypocrisy that rules the LDS Church and is carried in every LDS heart I have yet encountered. They are weak and fearful and eventhough they seized control of everything they need afterall to still be pitied and sought out for repentance carefully and with tears.

If I can keep this knowledge as flontlets before my eyes perhaps I can get over the mocking rage of scorn I bear my enemies. I hereby resolve to square myself to this knowledge and act and feel and think and pray accordingly. Perhaps then I will be ready to reap.

Well, you know... the persecution against you is likely to subside if you were to quit talking like a crazy person (assuming this post is a representative sample of the way you speak).

Also, it's curious that you provide all these details about the way things are (according to you) but you have no way of knowing. This will contribute to people thinking you are a crazy person.

It's true; some of us are unplugged from your version of the truth, but we need to be in order to be plugged into reality.
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[quote="Some Schmo]
Also, it's curious that you provide all these details about the way things are (according to you) but you have no way of knowing. This will contribute to people thinking you are a crazy person.

It's true; some of us are unplugged from your version of the truth, but we need to be in order to be plugged into reality.[/quote]

Who gave you the key to knowing who can know what and how they HAVE to know what ever or else they must be crazy?

Are people who sign for the deaf crazy because you don't get it?
Is ever language you do not understand crazy because you don't get it?
Just because God is not speaking to you does not mean he fails to enlighten others.

The hunkering crab who pulls everyone else back down is just afraid. Probably honors himself to have heroically saved another lost soul.
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Jacob Welling wrote:The hunkering crab who pulls everyone else back down is just afraid. Probably honors himself to have heroically saved another lost soul.


If all Mormons have failed why do you use analogies straight from our Sunday School manuals?
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Jacob Welling wrote: Who gave you the key to knowing who can know what and how they HAVE to know what ever or else they must be crazy?

Are people who sign for the deaf crazy because you don't get it?
Is ever language you do not understand crazy because you don't get it?
Just because God is not speaking to you does not mean he fails to enlighten others.

The hunkering crab who pulls everyone else back down is just afraid. Probably honors himself to have heroically saved another lost soul.
Everybody needs to feel good.

Well, first of all, I said you were talking like a crazy person. I don't know if you actually are crazy.

Secondly, when you say things like:
In the very first beginning man was light and truth or the intelligence of man was before it was organized into independent spheres of existence by the command of the Word of God and the obedience of those intelligences fearless enough to leave the warm fuzziness of that medium that fills the immensity of space and is in all things and through all things the power of God fully one with the Infinate Reality.

You talking out of your butt, because you weren't around "in the very beginning," so you don't know. It's that simple.

The majority of people don't consider signing for the deaf or speaking in different, known languages to be crazy. However, most people do consider others crazy when they claim voices are speaking to them in their heads.

And while it's true that there's the possibility that there's a supreme being talking to you and a few other folks, it's highly unlikely given the empirical evidence we have, and the far more rational, reasonable explanation is that you are delusional.

I'm not telling you to stop talking like a crazy person. I'm not trying to "drag you down" out of some personal fear you're attributing to me. Honestly, I couldn't care less. I'm just suggesting that if you don't like the persecution, avoiding the crazy talk would be one way around the problem.

But, you know... do what you want.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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