"they have announced rather loudly that, 'Here's our book, once you've read it, everything we looked at is available.' It will be really hard for those guys to tell any lies even if they were inclined to do so."
Where did they announce that everything they looked at is available? That's very good news, if it is accurate.
I highly doubt it's accurate. I'm quite certain that the church's plan is to say that everything is going to be made available, but once everyone forgets about it, it'll be back to plan A and nothing will be made available.
They're throwing the dogs off the scent, if you will.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
I highly doubt it's accurate. I'm quite certain that the church's plan is to say that everything is going to be made available, but once everyone forgets about it, it'll be back to plan A and nothing will be made available.
Perhaps the only way you can expect to have everything made available is if the descendents of the Fancher train sue the Church for wrongful death and have the historical archives ( and finances..) opened up in discovery.
Even that would not proly not accomplish much because the Church would role over and settle like they do for (nearly??) every sex abuse case..
I wonder how many copies of M@MM is Amazon mailing to Arkansas?
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
I wonder how many copies of M@MM is Amazon mailing to Arkansas?
Amazon is not the publisher of the book; Oxford University Press is, and it has released the book nationally.
On Sept. 12, 2008, the Mountain Meadows Monument Foundation, based in Arkansas and headed by Harley Fancher, is sponsoring an educational seminar in Harrison, Ark. One of the featured speakers will be Richard Turley.
Amazon is not the publisher of the book; Oxford University Press is, and it has released the book nationally.
Huh? Are you suggesting that Oxford is selling the books directly?
Out side of Utah/ Deseret Book, I suspect most will be sold through Amazon..
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
Amazon is not the publisher of the book; Oxford University Press is, and it has released the book nationally.
Huh? Are you suggesting that Oxford is selling the books directly?
Out side of Utah/ Deseret Book, I suspect most will be sold through Amazon..
It appeared from your question you thought Amazon was virtually the only nationwide distributor. You seemed to be remarking from ignorance, as you were when you implied the Fancher descendants in Arkansas would be unacquainted with the book and Turley.
It appeared from your question you thought Amazon was virtually the only nationwide distributor. You seemed to be remarking from ignorance, as you were when you implied the Fancher descendants in Arkansas would be unacquainted with the book and Turley.
I have no idea how you concluded all that from a simple question of how many books Amazon will be mailing to Ark.
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
It appeared from your question you thought Amazon was virtually the only nationwide distributor. You seemed to be remarking from ignorance, as you were when you implied the Fancher descendants in Arkansas would be unacquainted with the book and Turley.
I have no idea how you concluded all that from a simple question of how many books Amazon will be mailing to Ark.
I suppose it had something to do with the context in which the question was framed, wherein you fantasized about the survivors' descendants bringing a lawsuit against the Church over the book. Your supposition that the descendants as whole are not only unacquainted with the book but hostile to its authors seemed amusingly far from reality, as indicated by an upcoming educational symposium sponsored by a major group of descendants of Mountain Meadows victims at which Turley has been invited to speak.
Daniel Peterson wrote:Remember how I've said, forty or forty-five times since then, that mentioning it once was maybe okay, but that going on and on and on and on and on and on about it seemed rather pointless and smelled much too much like an attempt to poison the well?
Ya got that Beastie? You can mention it maybe once, but Daniel can tell you 40-45 times that it's pointless.
I have resisted using a sig line, but this one may be just too tempting to pass up.
I suppose it had something to do with the context in which the question was framed, wherein you fantasized about the survivors' descendants bringing a lawsuit against the Church over the book. Your supposition that the descendants as whole are not only unacquainted with the book but hostile to its authors seemed amusingly far from reality, as indicated by an upcoming educational symposium sponsored by a major group of descendants of Mountain Meadows victims at which Turley has been invited to speak.
Just to clarify ..
As this book has been discussed for several years prior to publication, I am sure there are those interested in the new Church stance on MMM and keenly interested in the book. I did not I imply any animosity towards the authors.
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it. Nehor.. Nov 08, 2010
