27 Mormons setting a fine example on the sabbath!

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Re: 27 Mormons setting a fine example on the sabbath!

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antishock8 wrote:I don't think it's "nominal" at all. When I was a missionary we were very explicit about not working on Sundays. Very explicit. Not following the Lord's commandments have resulted in all the world's ills, and thus a Mormon openly flauting the Lord is something of a contradiction (in addition to a Mormon supporting it). Maybe the Lord has mellowed out recently, and doesn't get so uptight about His disciplies cherry picking which rules to follow...


And yet missionaries work on Sundays.
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harmony wrote:
antishock8 wrote:I don't think it's "nominal" at all. When I was a missionary we were very explicit about not working on Sundays. Very explicit. Not following the Lord's commandments have resulted in all the world's ills, and thus a Mormon openly flauting the Lord is something of a contradiction (in addition to a Mormon supporting it). Maybe the Lord has mellowed out recently, and doesn't get so uptight about His disciplies cherry picking which rules to follow...


And yet missionaries work on Sundays.
How so?
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collegeterrace wrote:And yet missionaries work on Sundays.
How so?[/quote]

They have a task, a job, if you will. To preach. And they preach and teach on Sundays. They don't get a day off until later in the week.
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harmony wrote:
collegeterrace wrote:How so?


They have a task, a job, if you will. To preach. And they preach and teach on Sundays. They don't get a day off until later in the week.

Oh yeah that sales job.
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I shop on Sundays..and drink ..but I don't work..
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Yet on the same mormontimes website, they published an article about two sisters on the New Zealand Olympic basketball team who would not play in a game against the US, because it was on Sunday.

http://mormontimes.com/MITN_sports.php?id=1814

Already eliminated from medal contention, the New Zealand women's basketball team wraps up its Beijing Olympics participation Sunday against the gold-medal favorite United States.

But for New Zealand "Tall Ferns" players ­-- Charmian Purcell and Nonila Wharemate ­-- competition came to an end with Friday's 90-59 loss to the Czech Republic, because the two members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are keeping commitments to not play on Sundays.


Did these two fine examples of Sabbath honoring Mormons attend church that day they did not play? NOPE, they sat on the bench during the game!

Mormon observance of the Sabbath is all over the map.
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Here are a few of the articles, found during a quick search of LDS.org, that teach this principle:

http://tinyurl.com/5tlbry


Now here is something interesting from the article belonging your very first link.....

And if your prayerful decision, accepted by the Lord, is to pursue a career that requires some Sunday work, then follow that course as long as the Spirit directs, forgiving any fellow Saints who, not understanding, might criticize you.


...kinda puts a big damper on your criticism.

You must be suffering from Fortigurn's Lazy Research. I've never met a critic of the the Church who doesn't.
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So you are commanded to observe the Sabbath, and then told to break it if it's not convenient. Wow. I guess God did mellow out. “F”, all those people in the Old Testament died for nothing. What a shame.

I wish someone would have told me as a missionary not to guilt trip people into not working on Sundays. I guess they shouldn't have included that in the discussions. Someone must have missed the memo.
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BC:

Read all of the linked articles--the idea is expressed, clearly and repeatedly, that Sunday work is to be avoided. You cherry-picked a quote from the end of one of the articles, and skipped the following:

The question of Sabbath work, then, invariably becomes an individual one. Knowing that some Sunday work is not only justified, but also needed, we must ask ourselves, “Is my situation such that Sunday work is unavoidable?

Even though our decision may affect the lives of many people, the full weight of such a decision is upon the individual. But we needn’t decide alone. The Lord has promised inspiration and guidance in such major decisions.

If you are already in a job that requires Sunday work, you need to ask yourself the following:

Is there an alternative to Sunday work? Can I change my schedule?

If I did not work on Sunday, would it put an unfair burden on other employees? Could we trade Sunday shifts?

If I quit this job, what would happen to my family? Are there other employment possibilities that could keep us secure and yet allow me to participate fully in the Church and obey the Lord’s commandments?


Wouldn't LDS football players, particularly those who have university degrees, fall into this category?

You also managed to miss one quote that might have strengthened your position a little:
What is the impact of my work on the lives of others? Many who are involved in such public careers as athletics, entertainment, or politics find that their occupations demand at least some Sunday work or long distance travel on Sunday. Some that I discussed this with said they felt that the Lord gave them particular gifts that could be used to influence many people for good.


So if you're famous, it's OK, because you can "influence others for good".

Like antishock8, I wish I'd known about that little exception when I taught discussions.
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Read all of the linked articles--the idea is expressed, clearly and repeatedly, that Sunday work is to be avoided. You cherry-picked a quote from the end of one of the articles, and skipped the following:


Makes no difference at all. Since the item is found in a doctrinal work, one must account for / incorporate it into any conclusion about the subject.
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