The Eye of Ra Decimates The Fischers

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Apologists attack chapel Mormonism as voraciously as they attack "anti-mormonism" because they know chapel Mormonism is just as much a threat to the LDS church as "anti-mormonism".

It's an inconvenient detail that most prophets have been chapel Mormons, but that doesn't change the fact that apologists are smart enough to recognize the threat.
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Perhaps Gee's bitch slap of Wilford and Norma Fischer and their work is intended to quell others from pursuing similar works of faith...
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Ray A wrote:I suppose it's like the USA invading the Cayman Islands.


I think it is more along the lines of Indonesia invading East Timor.
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TAK wrote:Perhaps Gee's bitch slap of Wilford and Norma Fischer and their work is intended to quell others from pursuing similar works of faith...


Or maybe to do a better job?
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Gadianton

the rest of us just see a bunch of schoolyard bullies.


And if all we did was uncritically accept anything whatsoever written by our own, you critics would see unscholarly, noncritical thinking mere brainwash and pablum for faith. No matter what we do, you set it up as a damned if you do, damned if you don't. I for one, and very glad there are those who are seriously informed showing we lesser mortals the pitfalls of books and articles to avoid, no matter who authors them.
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TAK wrote:Perhaps Gee's bitch slap of Wilford and Norma Fischer and their work is intended to quell others from pursuing similar works of faith...


Yes, I am more than grateful for those who are better informed willing to show the rest of us some bad scholarship. Is there something inherently wrong with this, or do you get off simply charicaturing things to make yourself look all mighty important? There was no "bitch slapping," but my what a production you make of it.

Do you seriously wish to pretend here for us TAK that you, accept anything and all things written of a scientific bent as having equal value and validity?! Seriously? THen why the pretense that there is something wrong for those of faith to also show there are greater and lesser values of wroks on religion, faith, archaeology, and the Book of Mormon also? Is that really that hard to grasp?
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JM wrote:I am more than grateful for those who are better informed willing to show the rest of us some bad scholarship


Can I point out that the Fischers weren't doing "scholarship"?

And are you just as grateful that Mister Scratch pointed out the perpetuation of the fraudulent "horse bone" evidence by Tv in another thread?
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Trevor wrote:
TAK wrote:Perhaps Gee's bitch slap of Wilford and Norma Fischer and their work is intended to quell others from pursuing similar works of faith...


Or maybe to do a better job?


Or at least one that fits the FARMS mold?

Gee:
The guide tries to introduce the Book of Mormon as the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy and then use it to teach the gospel. Though this may have been the Church's program in times past, it is not the approach used now.


Unfortunately, the Fischers' system often introduces meat before milk.
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JustMe wrote:
TAK wrote:Perhaps Gee's bitch slap of Wilford and Norma Fischer and their work is intended to quell others from pursuing similar works of faith...


Yes, I am more than grateful for those who are better informed willing to show the rest of us some bad scholarship. Is there something inherently wrong with this, or do you get off simply charicaturing things to make yourself look all mighty important? There was no "bitch slapping," but my what a production you make of it.

Do you seriously wish to pretend here for us TAK that you, accept anything and all things written of a scientific bent as having equal value and validity?! Seriously? THen why the pretense that there is something wrong for those of faith to also show there are greater and lesser values of wroks on religion, faith, archaeology, and the Book of Mormon also? Is that really that hard to grasp?


Gees disparagements were much more about style than content..
Beyond that Fischers work is a fairly inconsequential piece and to take the time to ridicule shows how petty and small Gee must be.
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Gadianton wrote:Trevor, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but I'd ask you to consider something. You've now read an objective though somewhat negative review of a very negative and biased review of a book you've never read or heard of. And already you are convinced this book is "crap lit".

Do you see how effective the polemics of FARMS can be, despite our best efforts to counter them?


And I am not trying to pick a fight with you. I am calling it as I see it. Have you read the book?
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