How important is peer review? How reliable?

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_Dr. Shades
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Re: How important is peer review? How reliable?

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JustMe wrote:I will never forget when a virulent anti-Mormon started critiquing one of my essays online.


Where can I read your essays online?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

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JustMe wrote:solamarinas
Have you seen FAIR buddies ever contradict each-other?

Ummmmmmm ,lessee.......... oh I know a name is percolating up......./quote]

Jeeeess, ooomiiigoshh...Is that name percolating from your Postum?
Please enlighten us........
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Where can I read your essays online?


Good luck on getting an answer. I've already tried, to no avail. One thing is already becoming clear about justme - he's a font of excuses for why he won't engage in discussions about actual substance.
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.

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beastie
Good luck on getting an answer. I've already tried, to no avail. One thing is already becoming clear about justme - he's a font of excuses for why he won't engage in discussions about actual substance.


Until you do what you expect we Mormons to do, publish in bona fide peer reviewed scholarly and scientific journals for credibility and reality, there is no reason to take anything you write seriously. This is the rally standard against we Mormon apologists, the standard your kind of folks here on this message board have raised, and now we give it back to you. As I have said, IT SUCKS DON'T IT? All that time, research, and typing, writing, and reading, all for nought because you refuse to publish it, and we won't take it seriously until you do. Until you give me an issue number and year of published article and page number, I have no real reason to seriously engage you. Message boards are for fun and games, not serious learning. That comes only from the print of material. You May very well have something of value asbout Mesoamerica and the Book of Mormon and the problems. So? As a critic once asked me - "If you really believed you had something significant why are you hesitating to publish it after peer review and prove you have faith in what you write?" If I am a font of excuses as you claim, it is only due to my taking seriously the standard your kind of folks against Mormonism have raised, and now applying it back onto you. Until you get rid of the ridiculousness of that standard, you are just going to have to live by it, at least as far as I am concerned. IT SUCKS DON'T IT?
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solamarinas
Have you seen FAIR buddies ever contradict each-other?


Ummmmmmm ,lessee.......... oh I know a name is percolating up.......


Jeeeess, ooomiiigoshh...Is that name percolating from your Postum?
Please enlighten us........


Glad to see you got the fundamental point......... your claim is worthless against FAIR, and I have the absolute PROOF in person right here on these boards.
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One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

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solomarineris wrote:
Jeeeess, ooomiiigoshh...Is that name percolating from your Postum?
Please enlighten us........


Where is your refutation? Is that it?
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Joey wrote:It can be very useful. At a minimum, it should be offered to objective "qualified" peers. If it is not even offered up for peers to review, it is probably suspect to begin with. It should also have enough credibility to attract qualified "peers". If it can't even attract the interest of professional peers, it is probably lacking credibility to start with.

Those who argue that such works "are ignored" to defend their credibility obviously don't have the confidence in such works to request a review from objective, qualified peers in the first place. It is much safer to leave them on the shelves of obscurity than to promote and/or request professional peers to give their opinions.

Of course if such qualified peers continue to ignore such works, even after the author's or proponents request, it is telling of the work from the start.

Hence we have the works of Clark and Sorenson on Book of Mormon historicity still being, per Peterson, completely ignored. And no effort on the part of the authors or proponents to request or submit for peer review.


Great question. Obvious answer.


Kind of like Gregor Mendel?

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JustMe wrote:Message boards are for fun and games, not serious learning.


Then post a link to some of your essays.

As a critic once asked me - "If you really believed you had something significant why are you hesitating to publish it after peer review and prove you have faith in what you write?"


Just because some critic said that to you once doesn't mean that we have said it to you.

By all means, share what you have to contribute. It would be a shame to spend all the time writing whatever it was you wrote and not have anyone see it, wouldn't it?
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

--Louis Midgley
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Shades
It would be a shame to spend all the time writing whatever it was you wrote and not have anyone see it, wouldn't it?


Heavens yes! However, that is not anywhere near happening......
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