Scratch, DCP, and the IRS

[_Mister Scratch]

You're the one who looks foolish for pursuing this. You keep bringing in this dead horse, and it's stinking up the place. Find something else to focus on; I'm sure Daniel has a picture somewhere that shows him with his slip showing. Right now, yours is dragging on the ground behind you, and you're tripping on it.

Good grief, man. Give it a rest.

That's okay, I don't mind if my "slip" is showing. I appreciate you telling me how much of an "embarrassment" and "caricature" you think I am. Thanks for that, Harmony. Meanwhile, I am interested in learning the real truth about the financing of Mopologetics. I understand that my pursuit of learning about this is annoying to some people, but, hey---I just don't care.

[_Daniel Peterson]

I am interested in learning the real truth about the financing of Mopologetics.

Right.

Sure you are.

[Physics Guy]

What does that mean? You never "directed" an accountant? What, you suggested it with a well-timed raise of the eyebrow?

I'm really tired of this nonsense.

Well, hey---I'm tired of the endless trash pumped out by Mopologetics. Will my complaint ever register with you guys? No. Of course it won't.

Here's what it means: I deny your insinuation. Completely. There is no truth in it.

But there is! You said that you have had money "funneled" back into FARMS. Surely you had to tell someone to do that. E.g., "Hey, you don't have to pay me for my trip to Europe," or whatever.

How much money---in total---would you say that you have...."given" to FARMS? And by "given," I mean every last red cent, whether via direct donation, "siphoning" off of your salary, failure to claim expenses, and so forth? In other words: *everything*?

I haven't the faintest idea -- I've never kept records of how much I "gave" when I failed to charge the organization for taking someone to lunch on its behalf, or failed to turn in the receipt for something I mailed on behalf of the organization when I wasn't near the office and couldn't simply leave it there, and etc.

I'm sure that you can provide a rough estimate. $100? $1,000? $10,000? More?

This is trivial stuff, and it's none of your business. I don't have to account to you for "every last red cent" of my personal finances.

I don't think it's all that "trivial" at all, since it provides a concrete measurement of just how "invested" you are in the Mopologetic venture.

Once again, you are suggesting that the "$20,000" figure is somehow in error.

I don't know whether it's in error or you're in error or what.

But I do know that I was never paid $20,000.00, nor anything like thereunto, for serving as chairman of the FARMS board. I don't need to study an IRS document to know that.

Just because the money didn't wind up in your bank account does not mean that you weren't "paid" this amount. According to the 990s, some transactions clearly took place.

It seems clear that you are doing this in order to try and prevent people from thinking that you were paid for your Mopologetic endeavors.

I'm denying that I was ever paid $20,000.00 (or anything close to that) for serving as chairman of the FARMS board because I was never paid $20,000.00 (or anything close to that) for serving as chairman of the FARMS board.

Then the tax documents are wrong.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Get a life, Scartch.

[_Mister Scratch]

Get a life, Scartch.

Ah, right. Of course. I asked how much money you have dumped into Mopologetics, so of course you are checking out. Revealing that would be devastating.

[_Daniel Peterson]

I asked how much money you have dumped into Mopologetics,

Which would be none of your business to know.

so of course you are checking out. Revealing that would be devastating.

Revealing it wouldn't be "devastating" -- how on earth could it be that? -- but to reveal it would be to feed a "gossip whore," as Jersey Girl so aptly characterized you the other day.

My little donations to the organization or failures to bill the organization have not, I think, amounted to a very large amount over the years.

But you have precisely no business demanding that I account for them to you, let alone that I tote them up on a public message board.

I'm not interested in your donations or your personal finances, and I have no legitimate right to know their details. Similarly, you have no call and no right to know mine.

Get a life, Scartch.

Really. This is bizarre.

[_Dr. Shades]

Scratch, I think you're moving into the realm of legal action. If you think Daniel is guilty of tax fraud, you're duty bound to report that to the IRS.

Why do you say that? If I knew that you--or anyone else here, for that matter--were guilty of tax fraud, there's no way I'd tell anyone about it.

[_harmony]

Scratch, I think you're moving into the realm of legal action. If you think Daniel is guilty of tax fraud, you're duty bound to report that to the IRS.

Why do you say that? If I knew that you--or anyone else here, for that matter--were guilty of tax fraud, there's no way I'd tell anyone about it.

You are my friend, Shades. Have been for years. You would protect me if you could, as I would you.

Scratch isn't Daniel's friend.

[_Dr. Shades]

You are my friend, Shades. Have been for years. You would protect me if you could, as I would you.

Thank you. :-)

Scratch isn't Daniel's friend.

Maybe not, but that doesn't mean that Scratch is/would be duty-bound to report DCP to the IRS if he (DCP) is (hypothetically) guilty of tax fraud.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Scartch isn't really interested in reporting me to the IRS. He's simply focused on defaming me, anonymously but publicly.

He's been at it for years now.

Fortunately for him, this board gives him a (small) public platform from which to do it.