Another Tvedtnes Masterpiece

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_Mister Scratch
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Another Tvedtnes Masterpiece

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Skipping ahead a bit, to FARMS Review vol 4, I thought it would be instructive to inspect J. Tvedtnes's review of Wesley Walters's "The Use of the Old Testament in the Book of Mormon". From the very beginning, Tvedtnes trots out the cheap shots:

Some minor updating was done to the book, but the text was not retyped. For example, a reference to one of the Tanners' own books, published after Walters wrote his thesis, has been added to the end of footnote 40 (p. 35). The insertion is, however, crooked, and was evidently typed at the end of the footnote with the paper not straight.


Ah, right! Since FARMS Review is much fancier we really have to assume that it is more accurate and less biased. I wonder: what font does Tvedtnes use on his CV? What paper stock is it printed on?

Later, we see more evidence for what Dr. Robbers has characterized as Tvedtnes's "hubris":

I believe that Mr. Walters has overstated the case when he claims that Joseph Smith was well acquainted with the Bible because of his early Methodist involvement. Though I have been an avid Bible reader since the age of eight (with earlier exposure through Bible classes with the Assembly of God), I have only recently come to realize how much of the Old Testament is reflected in the Book of Mormon. I typically read the Bible once a year and the Book of Mormon once or twice. Extensive academic preparation has also given me insights unavailable to the general public.


Ah, of course. No doubt that "extensive academic preparation" includes his authoring of "spoofs" for SHIELDS and his penning of "scripture quizzes." But, "The Hatchet" doesn't stop there:

My exhaustive research into Hebrew manuscripts and ancient versions of Isaiah has shown that, where the Book of Mormon is at variance with the King James Version, the Nephite record is supported more often by the ancient texts. Walters, however, did not have access to my studies at the time he prepared his thesis. Because this material is now readily available, I shall not repeat it here.9


Gee, maybe his nickname should be changed from "Hatchet" to "Braggart"?
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Your rather cheap shot review of Tvedtnes's seriously excellent piece is hardly representative of the thoughts, analysis, and discussion in his article. I know, I have read it, and you nowhere touch much of it. I knew you wouldn't, but since this is truly the only depth I have ever seen of you, I knew it would be this shallow. Thanks for confirming my testimony that your research and thinking ain't worth worrying about much.
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Gee, maybe his nickname should be changed from "Hatchet" to "Braggart"?


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YAAAAAAAAWNNN!!
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Re: Another Tvedtnes Masterpiece

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Scartch doesn't do substance well, and he shouldn't be faulted for his incapacity.

His strength is gossip and personal attack, as is (redundantly) demonstrated here.
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JustMe wrote:Your rather cheap shot review of Tvedtnes's seriously excellent piece is hardly representative of the thoughts, analysis, and discussion in his article. I know, I have read it, and you nowhere touch much of it. I knew you wouldn't, but since this is truly the only depth I have ever seen of you, I knew it would be this shallow. Thanks for confirming my testimony that your research and thinking ain't worth worrying about much.


Cheap shot? Cheap shot?
Dude, did you ever consider that Twedtness has any substance in what he is writing?
I know, I know, Schratch is brutal....but far from shallow.
I'm glad to hear he (Scratch) helped strengthen your shallow testimony.......
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Welcome to MD Forum, I hope you will not be censored/butchered.
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Re: Another Tvedtnes Masterpiece

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Daniel Peterson wrote:Scartch doesn't do substance well, and he shouldn't be faulted for his incapacity.

His strength is gossip and personal attack, as is (redundantly) demonstrated here.


Just as your strength is gossipmongering, dodging questions, and kicking up smokescreens regarding your well-funded Mopologetic efforts? What about Tvedtnes's strenghts? Bragging? Being drunk on hubris?[1]

1. Cf. Robbers, G. Mormondiscussions.com: 2008.
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Re: Another Tvedtnes Masterpiece

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Scartch doesn't do substance well, and he shouldn't be faulted for his incapacity.

His strength is gossip and personal attack, as is (redundantly) demonstrated here.
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You know, Mister Scratch, when I read these things I recall my days as a youth in the Chapels of Mormonism and watching one of those ward plays about the plan of salvation. The guy playing Lucifer was really getting into it and singing, "..and give all the glo-o-ry to meee! Give it to me!!!"

It's almost humorous thinking about Tv getting all bent out of shape and *agitated* because his work isn't being quoted by everyone who writes on gospel topics. Demanding that he get his proper worship.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

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Re: Another Tvedtnes Masterpiece

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Gad wrote:You know, Mister Scratch, when I read these things I recall my days as a youth in the Chapels of Mormonism and watching one of those ward plays about the plan of salvation. The guy playing Lucifer was really getting into it and singing, "..and give all the glo-o-ry to meee! Give it to me!!!"


*wincing* "My Turn on Earth"....I was the Assistant Director and Vocal Coach for a private production of that show when I attended BYU.
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