Later, you privately confessed to Liz that you never knew that information on myself had been included on the blog.
Actually, I stated publicly on this board that I never knew that information on you had been posted prior to my discussing it with Liz. And why? Because I don't know you. In point of fact, the chat log that I posted here took place long before my discussing it with Liz. For you to think that I would recognize in real life information about a stranger, is a bit unrealistic don't you think?
If you'd like, I can post the copy of the Itchy Blog that I made, you can point out your in real life information and I'll "confess" that I didn't recognize it publicly.
Okay?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
If the organization pays any other person, such as a management services company, for the services provided by any of its officers, directors, trustees, or key employees, report the compensation and other items in Part V-A as if the organization had paid the officers, directors, etc., directly.
My question is this: would BYU qualify as a "management services company" and would DCP qualify as an "officer, director, trustee or key employee" of BYU for purposes of this rule?
So in this case BYU is the "any other person" and DCP is the "key employee" of that "any other person," right? My question is this: can DCP be considered a "key employee" of BYU?
Also, what do you make of the fact DCP's address is not his BYU address (whereas other members of the board who were paid use their addresses at BYU)? My point is this: there is nothing whatsoever in the Form 990 that connects DCP and BYU, which (in my opinion) would at least suggest payment to BYU.
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
antishock8 wrote:I dig Mr. Spencer. He's the Boston Celtics to your Phoenix Mercury I'm afraid...
Evidently, you don't dig him enough to take his opinion on DCP seriously.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
I try to pay attention to the interests of those I find interesting in regards to scholarship. As I said, evidently you don't dig him enough to take his opinion on DCP seriously.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I try to pay attention to the interests of those I find interesting in regards to scholarship. As I said, evidently you don't dig him enough to take his opinion on DCP seriously.
Brother,
I have a non-opinion about his opinion reference The Fat Man.
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I try to pay attention to the interests of those I find interesting in regards to scholarship. As I said, evidently you don't dig him enough to take his opinion on DCP seriously.
Brother,
I have a non-opinion about his opinion reference The Fat Man.
-AS8
You said DCP was the WNBA team compared to Spencer's NBA team. Aside from the sexist implications (where are all those feminists when I need them? Or maybe they know the WNBA sucks too) Spencer apparently doesn't find your comparison plausible in the least. This implied to me that you were making a value judgment on Spencer as being valuable compared to the less valuable DCP. But at the same time you actually hold Spencer's opinion in contempt, despite saying you "dig" him. Maybe I misread what you meant by "dig."
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
You said DCP was the WNBA team compared to Spencer's NBA team. Aside from the sexist implications (where are all those feminists when I need them? Or maybe they know the WNBA sucks too) Spencer apparently doesn't find your comparison plausible in the least. This implied to me that you were making a value judgment on Spencer as being valuable compared to the less valuable DCP. But at the same time you actually hold Spencer's opinion in contempt, despite saying you "dig" him. Maybe I misread what you meant by "dig."
I'm not really sure what you think is sexist by saying the Boston Celtics are a far superior team to the Mercury Phoenix. It's the truth, and it has nothing to do with gender. I actually paid the Fat Man a compliment, indirectly, by picking the WNBA champions to indicate that he's good at what he does. So. That little bit of nuance was lost on you, I guess.
As far as the rest of your post went, I kind of glazed over after once you started in with Mr. Spencer again. I'm not sure what you're doing, but feel free to keep knocking yourself out.
So in this case BYU is the "any other person" and DCP is the "key employee" of that "any other person," right?
Correct.
My question is this: can DCP be considered a "key employee" of BYU?
I do not know but I would say most likely not.
Also, what do you make of the fact DCP's address is not his BYU address (whereas other members of the board who were paid use their addresses at BYU)?
I have no idea. I don't really care nor do I think it an issue.
My point is this: there is nothing whatsoever in the Form 990 that connects DCP and BYU, which (in my opinion) would at least suggest payment to BYU
I think I have already said about ten times that IF we assume DCP is telling us the truth about the payment then the form is still prepared correctly. You can assume he is lying if you wish. I believe him and based on that the Form 990 DOES NOT dispute this point.
Jason Bourne wrote:I think I have already said about ten times that IF we assume DCP is telling us the truth about the payment then the form is still prepared correctly. You can assume he is lying if you wish. I believe him and based on that the Form 990 DOES NOT dispute this point.
Nor does the Form 990 support your thesis. As I've said before, your supposition is based on a possibility. Again, no connection between DCP and BYU is reflected anywhere in the Form 990 (although BYU is mentioned several times in connection with grants, as well as the addresses of other board members who were paid like DCP, but still no connection to DCP).
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)