rcrocket wrote:Oxford Press is one of the most rigorous of reviewers and editors. This book took years to get to the press, and I know that Oxford demanded that it be cut down to its present short format. During the review processes, at least when I've been in them, you can't cite something unless the editor can find it in a public library or, if not, a copy is provided and it appears authentic.
Then it's safe to say you agree with Mike, that Oxford Press did not have access to the Vault and therefore the information in the book is not verified.
In Bagley's Blood of the Prophets, there was likely very little of this done. Bagley repeated errors of secondary sources citing original material and got critical serial numbers wrong in more crucial cites -- wrong in such a way that any editor worth his or her salt would have realized it.
"likely" means you don't know for sure. You assume.
Oxford Press would have never have permitted a citation to a document it couldn't see for itself or obtain in a library itself whether the document was located in a vault or otherwise.. Do you disagree with my assertion that scholarly book publishers require verification of sources by (1) finding the source itself in public or university library or (2) seeing a photocopy of the source with adequate assurances as to provenance? Exactly what would the vault have to do with this?
I "assume" only because I didn't check all of Bagley's cites. But, for many I did check I can easily conclude that he either did not have a cite-checker or the cite-checker was blind. Would you like examples?
Scratch wrote:Jersey apparently "saved" a copy of the Itchy blog on her computer. This fact has always struck me as odd. Why would she archive something like that?
I'll let Jersey Girl speak for herself. However, I believe that she archived it in an attempt to help Harmony and Shades.
Scratch wrote:Jersey apparently "saved" a copy of the Itchy blog on her computer. This fact has always struck me as odd. Why would she archive something like that?
I'll let Jersey Girl speak for herself. However, I believe that she archived it in an attempt to help Harmony and Shades.
Yes. And if it were all fire important to Scratch...why didn't he copy it?
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Mister Scratch wrote:I was a part of a group of people who were led to believe something false (i.e., that Kerry Shirts was a part of the whole Z-troll, Mr. Itchy thing), due to your boneheaded speculations, Jersey. I *do* think you should apologize.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I don't think her speculations should be labeled "boneheaded." In my humble opinion, the ZLMB trolls made a concerted effort to throw Kerry under the bus so that attention would be focused on him and away from the real culprit(s).
I honestly don't think Jersey should be blamed for the above, since she did nothing more than gather clues that the trolls purposely planted for others to pick up on.
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"
Mister Scratch wrote:I was a part of a group of people who were led to believe something false (i.e., that Kerry Shirts was a part of the whole Z-troll, Mr. Itchy thing), due to your boneheaded speculations, Jersey. I *do* think you should apologize.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I don't think her speculations should be labeled "boneheaded." In my humble opinion, the ZLMB trolls made a concerted effort to throw Kerry under the bus so that attention would be focused on him and away from the real culprit(s).
I honestly don't think Jersey should be blamed for the above, since she did nothing more than gather clues that the trolls purposely planted for others to pick up on.
Thank you for weighing in on this, Dr. Shades. What role did you see Jersey playing in all of this? For example, did you feel that she gave you clear answers, or that she "played games" with you? I still feel as if I was jerked around by her, and I rather resent it.
Come on. Look again here, this was the post in which you joined the discussion:
I see that, in return for certain concessions on Daniel's part, Scratch now offers to cease posting, delete the blog and go away.
Within the past week, Scratch discussed a possible trip to Utah and proposed a face-to-face with Daniel, within minutes began to question the particulars of said meeting, and finally withdrew the offer because his trip plans had been cancelled.
It wasn't long ago that Scratch also offered to reveal his identity. Curious that, since he was up in arms over the Itchy Blog wherein some sort of in real life information was posted about him.
Within the past two years, Scratch has also stated he would cease posting about specific individuals.
Scratch has a history of making claims/offers for which there is no follow through.
Is this simple baiting? Methinks, yes.
'I know I said that I would....but...'
Uh huh.
How is this "topical"? Again: if you want to smooth things out between you and I, go ahead and send a PM.
Daniel Peterson wrote:Scartch wants to preserve his anonymity and privacy -- which is entirely legitimate.
It's a bit funny, though, that I, who have posted openly under my own name, have continually been asked for details of my personal compensation, my employment, my daily schedule, etc., and, although I've actually revealed much more of that sort of thing than I'm obliged to and probably much more than I should have, am also continually accused of covering things up and hiding things (and worse).
This is a characteristically Petersonian spin-job. No one *asked* you to come in and clarify about the 990 tax forms, say. You just barged in because you were terrified that somebody might learn the truth, which is that you have been paid for apologetics. In other words, you were just covering your butt.
Elder Peterson wrote:Scartch, there's an enormous difference between saying that, someday, you and Mini-Scartch and all others who bear false witness will need to account for that -- a very biblical and widely-accepted scenario -- and announcing what the verdict of the Final Judgment will be. (My candid sense, incidentally, is that you might well get off by reason of insanity.) I mentioned the first, but I have never engaged in the second.
Mister Scratch wrote:I was a part of a group of people who were led to believe something false (i.e., that Kerry Shirts was a part of the whole Z-troll, Mr. Itchy thing), due to your boneheaded speculations, Jersey. I *do* think you should apologize.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I don't think her speculations should be labeled "boneheaded." In my humble opinion, the ZLMB trolls made a concerted effort to throw Kerry under the bus so that attention would be focused on him and away from the real culprit(s).
I honestly don't think Jersey should be blamed for the above, since she did nothing more than gather clues that the trolls purposely planted for others to pick up on.
Thank you most sincerely.
What I did was done out of support for a small collection of posters and your board. My regret is that I didn't view all of the posts as a whole. A couple of remarks were intended to appear as Kerry and I wasn't the only person who saw them that way. I'm not embarrassed to say that I was tricked.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Look, Jersey. Once upon a time, you and I got along pretty well. If you are interested in trying to patch things up, then by all means, please send me a PM. If you want to carry on in another round of Drama Queen antics, however, then I can't stop you.
I didn't initiate this derailment, you did. If YOU want to carry on in another round of this, you go right ahead, only don't be surprised when I respond directly. I don't chase easy.
As for getting along, patching things up, or PMing you.
Not interested.
If you don't like the way your derailment is going, then you should have responded on point to my post regarding your failed claims and promises.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb