Are Ex-Mo's TBM's in reverse?

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Re: Are Ex-Mo's TBM's in reverse?

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Jersey Girl wrote:Or was your post intentionally meaningless?


screen name #4 wrote:WOW, Jersey Girl asking ME that.


Asking YOU? Just who would I ask about your meaningless blather?
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liz3564 wrote:
collegeterrace wrote:Oh and by the way, thanks for the second line in my SIGGY.


It's interesting to note that Porter is listing a quote in his signature from someone who is supposedly on his block list.



He removed his "block list" just minutes after I posted the thread inquiring about the massive stupidity of posting to posters on one's "block list".

That's right.

He chickensh***ed his way out of his own chickens****.

All true!
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solomarineris wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:I see. So, those who feel they've have been (mentally) victimized & molested & abused in their lifelong calling, don't need a therapist.

They need to attack people.

Well, that makes all the sense in the world, solo.


Hey, Jersey Girl,

The only person in attack mode I see is actually you.
I haven't seen a single anti-mormon physically attacking to anybody yet.
This is America, everybody's free speech is protected. If you do not want to read or watch exmormon venting turn your tv/ipod/pc/Mac, (whatever weapon they use for their purpose) off.
There is nothing wrong trying to tear down Scientology, Mormonism, JW's, Islam, etc.
They are the ones who claim to have divine authority.
Some people simply say to them; screw you & your authority. Enough is enough.


Congratulations, solo. You ran off point right into the intellectual ditch on that one.

My compliments!
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Jersey Girl wrote:
liz3564 wrote:It's interesting to note that Porter is listing a quote in his signature from someone who is supposedly on his block list.



He removed his "block list" just minutes after I posted the thread inquiring about the massive stupidity of posting to posters on one's "block list".

That's right.

He chickenshitted his way out of his own chicken****.

All true!
Good god, you spend a lot of time watching certain posters activities on this board. Or did your MOD friend tell you this???
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My earlier question:
So, Jersey Girl, what's your rough estimate of how many exmormons who post on this board, for example, who spend as much time on this board as they did on being an active Mormon? And how much time do you imagine those posters spend on this board?


I may have mistaken this thread for a generalized observation about many exmormons. It now appears to be more of a barb against one exmormon in particular.

But if I'm mistaken, Jersey Girl, and you are making an observation about many exmormons, could you answer my above question?
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beastie wrote:My earlier question:
So, Jersey Girl, what's your rough estimate of how many exmormons who post on this board, for example, who spend as much time on this board as they did on being an active Mormon? And how much time do you imagine those posters spend on this board?


I may have mistaken this thread for a generalized observation about many exmormons. It now appears to be more of a barb against one exmormon in particular.

But if I'm mistaken, Jersey Girl, and you are making an observation about many exmormons, could you answer my above question?



Did you catch my reply to John Larsen, beastie? I had just visited RFM prior to posting this OP. My impression was largely based on RFM however, I did use one poster from this board as a "local" example.

I based the OP largely on repetitive post themes on RFM.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
beastie wrote:My earlier question:

I may have mistaken this thread for a generalized observation about many exmormons. It now appears to be more of a barb against one exmormon in particular.

But if I'm mistaken, Jersey Girl, and you are making an observation about many exmormons, could you answer my above question?



Did you catch my reply to John Larsen, beastie? I had just visited RFM prior to posting this OP. My impression was largely based on RFM however, I did use one poster from this board as a "local" example.

I based the OP largely on repetitive post themes on RFM.
If you haven't noticed, RfM has a high turnover rate. Yes, as expected, fresh exmos typically post the same thing as the last batch of fresh exmos --unless your name is SusieQ#1 or Steve Benson lol
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Jersey Girl wrote:You know, it occurs to me that many of the ex-Mo's who regularly post on boards like this are really just TBM's in reverse.

For all the criticism's of how much of a time investment TBM's devote to church callings and weekly activities, how are the Ex-Mo posters any different given the time invested in posting about Mormonism after they've exited?

One example, the recently posted thread about an LDS woman reading the Book of Mormon on youtube. What she's doing makes sense given that she's active LDS. The question I have is why are ex-members investing time searching for people like her?



Jersey Girl


It's an obsession. What else can it be? I guess the frequency of participation may be a determining factor though as to whether or not it is an obsession.

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Did you catch my reply to John Larsen, beastie? I had just visited RFM prior to posting this OP. My impression was largely based on RFM however, I did use one poster from this board as a "local" example.

I based the OP largely on repetitive post themes on RFM.




RFM does have a very high turnover rate. Many of the posters there are in the fresh stages of discovering an exmormon community which shares their issues, and go on a “glut” of interacting with that community for a while, before tapering off into a more moderate participation. But really, I’m just guessing this is the case, based on my own past. The reason I’m guessing is because I don’t keep track of posters in any way, and how much they post, and how long they’ve been posting. I am fairly certain you don’t, either. So I’m left wondering what information or observation you’ve used to formulate this opinion – just based on how active RFM is? Just the fact that the themes are repetitive? That points more towards a high turnover than the amount of time individuals spend on it.

I’d been out of the church for a couple of years by the time I got online and discovered RFM (or the email version at first), and was seriously addicted for several months. It was if I’d been traveling through a long, hot, desert and finally got to some water. I’d been longing for someone to talk to who would understand. I had no one, prior to discovering the online community. Many individuals, after suffering a traumatic loss, desperately need to talk about it – sometimes a lot – to process it. Others don’t want to talk at all. I see no reason to view not needing to talk about it a lot as preferable or superior in some way than needing to talk about it a lot. Believers often act as if we should be able to leave the church without any trauma, or even a backward glance. That may be true for some who were marginally involved, emotionally, but it’s usually not true for people who were seriously involved.

If I visit my old divorce board, I will see another group of people obsessively posting about their divorce – analyzing their ex-spouse, criticizing their ex-spouse, endlessly ruminating on the relationship. With a few exceptions, these will be different people than the group I knew when I was obsessively posting about my own divorce and failed relationship. But the vast majority of people move on, and either continue discussions on a far less involved manner, or stop discussing it altogether. I no longer have any need to discuss my divorce or analyze my failed relationships at all, but I suppose if I had developed an interest, in general, in relationships, marriage, and the stress of divorce, I might continue in a modified fashion. However, for about eight months, I had an intense need to post about it, and did so obsessively. It actually helped me, in my opinion. It was like a version of a support/therapy group.

When I visit RFM now, I rarely see a name I recognize as a poster from my past. I can recall one or two from my past, and they post in a very minimal fashion. I do seem some names that have posted frequently over the past several years, but they weren’t around during my old-days. But I seriously doubt even those posters spend an equivalent amount of time on boards as they did on being an active Mormon. I could be viewed as a very active, long-time poster from Z, FAIR, and here. Yet I don’t spend anywhere near the amount of time on these boards as I did on being an active Mormon. The vast majority of my day is spent on things that have nothing to do with Mormonism in anyway. I imagine the same is true of those folks.

And really, who cares? Is there really some flaw to be criticized? Believers like to criticize it, but their agenda is really to shame exmormons so they stop criticizing the church. If people like talking about Mormonism, and goofing off on the internet doing so, that doesn’t mean their lives aren’t otherwise productive and satisfying. Most American spend four hours a day watching TV – or more. So some folks spend some of that time on the internet, rather than on the couch in front of the TV. I think I could make a case that it is more intellectually stimulating to actually be interacting with other people on the internet than watching a sitcom. (and I have nothing against TV shows, there are a couple I love, myself, I’m just saying it’s not a pastime that requires much mental processing, which is likely the point)
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When I first resigned from The Cult, I camped out on RFM. Beastie is correct that often there is a glut of posting on RFM for new apostates. The "glut" of posting can last a long time. Maybe years. It did with me. I haven't clicked on RFM in months. And in the past year, if I did post on RFM it was just to mess with some douchenozzles.

The point is that many of us devoted a tremendous amount of time, money, and energy to the Kingdom of God. If you were to compare the amount of time I put into a mission, versus the amount of time I have spent, post-apostasy, on Mormon message boards since 2001... I'm still running a significant surplus on the Mormon side. And that's just for two years of devotion.

Now? I'm more like Some Schmo who comes here to “F” around, and then move onto something else. It's just a mental diversion. I realize that the Mo's who post here are generally beyond help. They're ideologues devoted to the Party, and have accommodated the ridiculous foundin Mo'ism. I'm at the point that I don't even care about the lurkers. They'll find about a dozen different forums to peruse in order to form their own opinion on the matter. I used to post for them, but now I just don't care.

As far as Jersey Girl goes. She's just a ****. She's the same. She's just looking to pick a fight, get some aggression out, etc... She's no different from anyone else here.
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