A8 wrote:As far as Jersey Girl goes. She's just a ****. She's the same. She's just looking to pick a fight, get some aggression out, etc... She's no different from anyone else here.
Not even close, A8. Though of course you'd see my posting to you as "picking a fight". That's a juvenile assessment at best.
Typically, these kinds of boards have a high male:female ratio. That is to say, most of the posters I reply to on any given day are male. On this board in particular, topical discussion/debate is in short supply. When a good topic gets underway, it's often interrupted by off topic hit and runs, and later derailed. Though there are some definite exceptions, a number of posters on this board simply aren't good thinkers.
Back to the male/female aspect. I can think of a fairly recent event just off the top of my head to demonstrate the dynamic of what goes on and what you might think of as "picking a fight".
Remember when you posted that picture of the child/vulture? I stepped in and called you on your appeal to emotion. That's exactly what you planned on doing only you didn't expect anyone to call you on it, especially not female. Following that, you went on attack for my being TBM (which I'm not) and devolved into making gender-related comments. You failed entirely to address the point I made about your capitalizing on a photo of a starving (later dead) child and the fact that an adult photographer was the person in close proximity to the child and who held the moral obligation for transporting the child to the feeding center. Instead, the adult photographer snapped the pic and abandoned the child.
The fact that you cannot respond to challenge on point and grasp for anything you can think of to respond such as "Jersey Girl is posting on a primarily LDS board, I'll attack her religion" and when told that I'm not LDS, you grasp at the next straw "She's female, I'll post female insults". What you're doing there is grasping for ANYTHING outside of the exchanges as a defense to my challenging and that does absolutely nothing to forward your original attempt to forward your position.
That's not "picking a fight", A8. It's simply challenging your position and your method, and later watching how you attempt to defend it by thinking you could insult me off the thread.
If you were to bother to actually follow my posts, you'd see me regularly challenging in much the same way. Some times, I pose a question. When I read the response, it has nothing to do with the question. It completely hops over the question and goes off in another direction. I pose the question again. In some cases I pose the question multiple times in an attempt to get the person replying to answer what I asked. That's another example of where people think I'm a strident bitch.
In the situation above, where I'm repeatedly asking the same question, I'm trying to establish a point on my part or the part of others, in order to move forward.
What you don't know about me, A8, is that I'm very methodical and didactic in my thinking. I prefer to address one point, clarify, before moving on in order to construct a discussion.
That I happen to be female is what (largely) male posters latch on to in order to forumulate a response. Were I posting as a male or genderless poster, that likely wouldn't happen. I know for a fact that it wouldn't happen because when male posters assumed that I was male, I have never been accused of being emotional or what have you.
There is little or nothing on a board like this that raises strong emotion in me. I do, from time to time, intentionally couch my posts in phrasing in order to provoke a person to stay on the thread until they get past the intellectual road block that we're stuck on.
Just ask Gaz, I do it to him all the time! He doesn't consider me a bitch or emotional or what have you. He considers me someone who challenges his thinking and/or presentation.
The reason that I do that, is because I spent YEARS on a board where people did that to me. There were some very good "heads" there! After so many years, I got used to picking apart my own thinking and presentation, I noticed places where I contradicted myself or totally ignored what the other person attempted to convey and went off on some response that had nothing to do with their comments.
These days, when I see it in someone else, I automatically do it to them because I'm simultaneously doing it myself while reading them. I've learned how important it is to fine tune one's communication on a board like that that relies on clarity of communication in order to fully exchange ideas, thoughts and to clarify both.
One other thing you and others don't often understand about me is that when I do engage in topical discussion/debate (which again, is in short supply here) that I choose a position to see how well I can defend it and at those times, I'm almost always challenging
myself. For example, I can go both sides of the gay/sin/Bible debate at any given time and I do. The position I choose say, regarding Leviticus, almost always has to do with a point of discussion that I pick up on that I haven't quite worked out for myself. What position I take and at what point I enter the debate/discussion usually has to do with that one point.
Likewise, I can go both sides of the Mormon's are Christians topic and have. I remember when I started posting on Z how interested I was in challenging the comments of EV's regarding just that. I saw people attempting to forward the same ideas that I had previously forwarded back in the day when I thought I knew so much about Mormonism and actually knew very little at all. Over the years, my ideas about Mormonism became more refined as I sythesized the information I'd collected. The EV's that I chose to challenge on Z were on the same journey as I had been only I felt I was a few miles further in understanding Mormonism and how Mormonism was understood by Mormon's themselves. So, I challenged them and in doing so, continued to challenge the strength of my own ideas regarding Mormonism.
So you see, A8, I like to do stuff with my head that isn't work related and my head is almost always not up my butt. That is to say, there's a reason for almost every thing I do on a board like this.
Your postings regarding my being TBM, female, focusing on female anatomy, demonstrate the
weakness of your position, not the strengths.