What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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Are they making a statement that they do not believe that homosexuality is a sin and thereby stating LDS doctrine is flawed or false?

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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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Not necessarily.

Such a member may still believe that homosexuality is a sin but is not willing to have that particular religious view legislated above others. To clarify, above other religious views (that do not regard homosexual acts as inherently sinful) or above secular viewpoints that likewise, don't regard homosexual acts, in and of themselves, to be a problem.
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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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"collegeterrace"]Are they making a statement that they do not believe that homosexuality is a sin and thereby stating LDS doctrine is flawed or false?


Oh! I'm sure they (Church) are gonna say to disgruntled member "You have been really bad, so bad that you may not pay tithing".
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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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solomarineris wrote:
"collegeterrace"]Are they making a statement that they do not believe that homosexuality is a sin and thereby stating LDS doctrine is flawed or false?


Oh! I'm sure they (Church) are gonna say to disgruntled member "You have been really bad, so bad that you may not pay tithing".
Especially $teve Young!
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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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A church member supports gay marriage it is a symptom of a much larger problem. It is a sign of a lack of morality and decency, and an acceptance of degarding social practices.
These people are on the fast track to hell, and hopefully they have no children to influence with their skewed world view.
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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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collegeterrace wrote:Are they making a statement that they do not believe that homosexuality is a sin and thereby stating LDS doctrine is flawed or false?

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I do not think so. One can think it is still sinful but really believe in agency and that in a republic like the USA one does not have the right to impose ones personal beliefs on an entire group.

And I am one that struggle with the LDS Church being so against a group and their relationship considering what the LDS Church went through with polygamy from 1852-1905. It seems ironic in many ways.
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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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Are they making a statement that they do not believe that homosexuality is a sin and thereby stating LDS doctrine is flawed or false?


They are. Even if they argue that homosexuals should have the right to choose state sanctioned marriage, such is obviously not their privilege and those who argue from that pov (such as RAJ's post above) fall under Romans 1:32. "Taking pleasure in them that do" means that one is a facilitator of the act.
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Post by _Dr. Shades »

Hey Gazelam and bcspace:

In the pre-existence, what was Lucifer's plan, and what was Jehovah's plan?

Which do you think was the superior plan, and why?
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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

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In the pre-existence, what was Lucifer's plan,


No agency. No consequences. Moses 4:3-4, 2 Nephi 2:22

and what was Jehovah's plan?


Choose our consequences.

Which do you think was the superior plan, and why?


Christ's plan. It's how we grow and develop by tasting the bitter so that we can prize the good. Moses 6:55
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Re: What if a member doesn't align with LDS position on prop8?

Post by _Ray A »

This was posted by "Darin" on MAD:

No on Prop 8

A bit dramatic, and obviously offensive to LDS. But this is essentially what will happen. To say that I'm appalled is an understatement.

All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression. - Thomas Jefferson


There is still no documented evidence that SSM "threatens" heterosexual marriage. I'm waiting for the pundits to produce this evidence.

Yet Mormonism's legacy of polygamy still afflicts America today. The abuses are well documented. Teenaged girls subjected to physical violence and sexual abuse, yet the Church members have spent $20 million in an effort to enforce a law which prevents a minority from exercising their civil rights, a minority who have shown no threat to our society, while turning a blind eye to far greater abuses.

In this regard, I'm tempted to join GoodK in saying, "“F” religion".
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