There is still no documented evidence that SSM "threatens" heterosexual marriage. I'm waiting for the pundits to produce this evidence.
No documentation be be presented as it's by definition. Homosexuals married are not heterosexually married.
Yet Mormonism's legacy of polygamy still afflicts America today.
Heterosexual.
The abuses are well documented. Teenaged girls subjected to physical violence and sexual abuse,
Mostly by those not of our faith.
yet the Church members have spent $20 million in an effort to enforce a law which prevents a minority from exercising their civil rights, a minority who have shown no threat to our society, while turning a blind eye to far greater abuses.
Plural marriage poses a threat to the idea of "one man, one woman marriage", which the Church advocates.
Do you deny that?
Most assuredly as you are forgetting that God authorized plural marriage is possible within LDS doctrine. In other words, your expression of LDS doctrine/thinking on the matter was incomplete.
So, since there is no God-authorized plural marriage today, how can we treat homosexual marriage the same as plural marriage (if we want to)? By not giving state sanction to either or disallowing either.
The first commandment that God gave to Adam and Eve pertained to their potential for parenthood as husband and wife. We declare that God's commandment for His children to multiply and replenish the earth remains in force. We further declare that God has commanded that the sacred powers of procreation are to be employed only between man and woman, lawfully wedded as husband and wife.
Not "husband and wives". Yet the Church is still turning a blind eye to polygamy abuses in Utah, for which there is substantial documentary evidence, while lecturing members from pulpits about "the evils of SSM".
bcspace wrote: Most assuredly as you are forgetting that God authorized plural marriage is possible within LDS doctrine. In other words, your expression of LDS doctrine/thinking on the matter was incomplete.
"God" never "authorised" plural marriage. I defy you to show me one verse in the Book of Mormon where "God" "authorises" plural marriage.
bcspace wrote:So, since there is no God-authorized plural marriage today, how can we treat homosexual marriage the same as plural marriage (if we want to)? By not giving state sanction to either or disallowing either.
So if "God-authorised" plural marriage came back, hypothetically, would you consider it "unjust" for it to be legislated out of existence, and a breach of civil rights?
Not "husband and wives". Yet the Church is still turning a blind eye to polygamy abuses in Utah, for which there is substantial documentary evidence, while lecturing members from pulpits about "the evils of SSM".
Hypocrisy is too mild a word to use here.
How so? Those who practice plural marriage in the Church are excommunicated.
Most assuredly as you are forgetting that God authorized plural marriage is possible within LDS doctrine. In other words, your expression of LDS doctrine/thinking on the matter was incomplete.
"God" never "authorised" plural marriage. I defy you to show me one verse in the Book of Mormon where "God" "authorises" plural marriage.
Jacob 2:30. Also 2 Samuel 12:8-10
So, since there is no God-authorized plural marriage today, how can we treat homosexual marriage the same as plural marriage (if we want to)? By not giving state sanction to either or disallowing either.
So if "God-authorised" plural marriage came back, hypothetically, would you consider it "unjust" for it to be legislated out of existence, and a breach of civil rights?
Is homosexual marriage (nonstate sanctioned) legislated out of existence?
Sorry, but this doesn't "authorise" plural marriage. And I repeat my challenge - show me any verse in the Book of Mormon which "authorises" plural marriage.
bcspace wrote:Is homosexual marriage (nonstate sanctioned) legislated out of existence?
What's the difference? A piece of paper? But it's a piece of paper that means a lot to those who have gay relationships. So let me get this straight - Mormons have spent $20 million to stop a piece of paper becoming legal.
Sorry, but this doesn't "authorise" plural marriage.
Sorry but it does whenever God decides.
And I repeat my challenge - show me any verse in the Book of Mormon which "authorises" plural marriage.
Just did. And and an instance in the Bible as well. Why does there have to be something in the Book of Mormon anyway?
Is homosexual marriage (nonstate sanctioned) legislated out of existence?
What's the difference? A piece of paper?
No. There is also societal acceptance of something dangerous and unnecessary.
But it's a piece of paper that means a lot to those who have gay relationships. So let me get this straight - Mormons have spent $20 million to stop a piece of paper becoming legal.
The paper is only representational of something. Stop trying to obfuscate.
No. There is also societal acceptance of something dangerous and unnecessary.
I am waiting for your evidence, BC. From you, or any of the pundits who can prove that civil unions or gay marriage has "harmed society".
I've posted much evidence accumulated by science about homosexuality being a dangerous and risky lifestyle before and can do it again. But your question orginal question was about harming heterosexual marriages and I've shown you how that's implicit in the definition of homosexual marriage.