We're bleeding and I think it's terminal

[_JAK]

Yes, I see how it works. I'm not at all entertained by it. I find it a tiresome game.

I quite agree!

It makes for lack of transparency and therefore has the inherent consequence of making for communication break-down and dishonesty.

[_Jersey Girl]

I quite agree!

It makes for lack of transparency and therefore has the inherent consequence of making for communication break-down and dishonesty.

I tried to promote transparency during a short stint as moderator. I see posts being moved without mod notes and not long ago, one of the mods admitted to editing posts from within for spelling and swear words. There are some of us, myself included, that doesn't go over well with. There is a censor mode here to take care of the swear words and spelling errors are acceptable to me. I will admit there was one time I edited a person's post for one spelling error. It was a tribute post that Porter had made regarding is deceased sibling.

I would have liked to see something different go on, in the way of moderation however, it is what it is.

I don't see that communication, intellectual honesty or maintaining the integrity of topics/issues are valued here. Others will disagree, I'm sure, but that's my observation and experience. As you well know, I don't mind fooling around on a board and am no stranger to personal attack (giving and receiving). On the whole, though, I find it obnoxious and tiresome when I think that the majority of threads on a board consist nearly entirely of that type of exchange or devolve into it.

I much prefer a room with a threaded view and a few good heads to think with.

:-)

[_Blixa]

Things run in cycles, harmony. I don't know what the future holds for Shades's board.

I don't think Prop H8 threads are to blame: documenting this is an important part of Utah history. You remember the ERA, harm, well its more of the same, just a bit harder to hide in the era of new media.

I am hopeful for less threads on american presidential politics---I try to stay away from this level of political discussion. It always seems to be carried out in a historical/theoretical vacuum that I blame on crap american education.

It would be nice to see less DCP-centric threads. I don't mean I'm not interested in discussion of the history of apologetics---far from it---I just get tired of the predictable and uninteresting/irrelevant reactions from the apologetic peanut gallery (including commentary from Mr. Peanut Himself).

I still read. Why aren't I posting as much as I have been in the past? I'm extraordinarily swamped with school work and scholarly work at the moment. I'm also disheartened by the bullying efforts of the loose apologetic cabal represented on the board (it smacks of smutty "intelligence" gathering) and I'm not thrilled to participate in venues where certain kinds of over-the-top inhuman monstrosity leaks out. Even though the responses are by now predictable, I still get the heebie jeebies whenever Gaz's homophobic buttons are activated.

It has been fun playing with the ignore feature, but that doesn't help generate rich discussion, just mutes some of the worst deflections.

Anyway, the Angel of History has surprises up its sleeve (I differ slightly from Benjamin on this point) so who knows what potential here is yet to come?

[_JAK]

I quite agree!

It makes for lack of transparency and therefore has the inherent consequence of making for communication break-down and dishonesty.

I tried to promote transparency during a short stint as moderator. I see posts being moved without mod notes and not long ago, one of the mods admitted to editing posts from within for spelling and swear words. There are some of us, myself included, that doesn't go over well with. There is a censor mode here to take care of the swear words and spelling errors are acceptable to me. I will admit there was one time I edited a person's post for one spelling error. It was a tribute post that Porter had made regarding is deceased sibling.

I would have liked to see something different go on, in the way of moderation however, it is what it is.

I don't see that communication, intellectual honesty or maintaining the integrity of topics/issues are valued here. Others will disagree, I'm sure, but that's my observation and experience. As you well know, I don't mind fooling around on a board and am no stranger to personal attack (giving and receiving). On the whole, though, I find it obnoxious and tiresome when I think that the majority of threads on a board consist nearly entirely of that type of exchange or devolve into it.

I much prefer a room with a threaded view and a few good heads to think with.

:-)

Once again, Jersey Girl, I find that I am in agreement with your comments here. With the number of posts on this board (and your nearly 6900), it is not possible for a 24/7 “moderator” to catch every error of spelling, syntax, or consistency. As a result we have selective moderating. As a result, my interest here is far less than yours given the volume of posts to the forum. In agreement with you, a threaded view which links every post to the one upon which it is an intended comment is superior. New posts stand at the front as “new topic” wherein the person who makes that post is clearly identified.

On a related thought is that a person can appear as many different people when the individual is actually the same one. YOU, for example have always maintained identity with personal integrity so far as I know. You don’t post under multiple names thus making an appearance that you are supporting another poster, when in fact, you are the same person. For that, you and others who have retained their original identity, credit should be given!

[_CaliforniaKid]

I will probably be back to post more on Mormon-related issues once I graduate.

[_Dr. Shades]

Anyway, the Angel of History has surprises up its sleeve (I differ slightly from Benjamin on this point) so who knows what potential here is yet to come?

Oh, I have a few ideas I'm planning to implement. . .

[_Imwashingmypirate]

Jeepers. Open your eyes people. Even I don't find this board stimulating anymore and I am easily stimulated. I can be amused by anything and this just bores me. Hence my lack of participation. I doubt my imput will be worth anything but I have come here from other forums and I know what intellectual discussion is and believe it or not, I have even participated in intellectual discussion without going off topic. I will admit it is not just this board that is making me feel this way. Perhaps if I had mroe time on my hands I could focus on such things but to me trying to find the spark in here is draining. Some posters that I enjoyed speaking with have left. I see no way that they could be brought back and that is a shame. I can't even say "What has happened?" because by comparison this board is no where near is thought provoking and evigorating as previous boards I have discussed on and they too have become lacking in substance which I personally think is because we have talked about most things and we all know who specialises in what and after so many years without any new participants it become like that.

I wont leave though, I like the blog here hehe.

But hey Jesus loves you. :D

[_moksha]

Harmony, have you ever checked out LDS.net?

.

[_Yoda]

I see posts being moved without mod notes and not long ago, one of the mods admitted to editing posts from within for spelling and swear words. There are some of us, myself included, that doesn't go over well with. There is a censor mode here to take care of the swear words and spelling errors are acceptable to me

I'm not aware of posts being moved without notes. Shades may do it once in a while if he moves a post to Telestial, but, frankly, it's his board, so that's his prerogative. Anytime I have to go through the trouble of using the Moderator Tools to split posts out, I say something, because it is truly a pain in the butt. I don't do it unless it's called for.

Scottie, as far as I know, did not say that he edited posts for spelling errors. He said he had edited posts where the quote feature hadn't been handled properly by a poster. I have done that, too. Frankly, it's simply a service to the poster, so that he/she can be understood properly. If this really offends you guys, I won't do it. Again, frankly, it's a pain in the butt. It was something I was trying to do to be nice.

As far as the swear words, sometimes the filter doesn't catch the swear words. Most of the time, it does, but just like any other software, sometimes there are glitches, and that is the only other time that any of us have intervened in a post. And, as Shades said, that was basically just to keep the post "Terrestrial worthy".

[_Jersey Girl]

Liz

'm not aware of posts being moved without notes. Shades may do it once in a while if he moves a post to Telestial, but, frankly, it's his board, so that's his prerogative. Anytime I have to go through the trouble of using the Moderator Tools to split posts out, I say something, because it is truly a pain in the butt. I don't do it unless it's called for.

You're probably right that it's Shades and I agree that splits are the pain of all time!

Scottie, as far as I know, did not say that he edited posts for spelling errors.

Yes, he has. It does bother some of us that anyone would edit our posts, not that they would be moved, but some folks see it as being tampered with. It really doesn't matter to me personally any longer.

He said he had edited posts where the quote feature hadn't been handled properly by a poster. I have done that, too. Frankly, it's simply a service to the poster, so that he/she can be understood properly. If this really offends you guys, I won't do it. Again, frankly, it's a pain in the butt. It was something I was trying to do to be nice.

It doesn't matter much to me now. I think if it matters to others, they will say so.

As far as the swear words, sometimes the filter doesn't catch the swear words. Most of the time, it does, but just like any other software, sometimes there are glitches, and that is the only other time that any of us have intervened in a post. And, as Shades said, that was basically just to keep the post "Terrestrial worthy".

Yup.