Crazy Mormon child-raising techniques.

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Re: Crazy Mormon child-raising techniques.

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WOW.. lol .. You guys/girls are great im cracking up already .. Thanks for the heads up and the welcome harmony ,Sethbag , quaker and , Danna .. So you all know I have um been around the block what seems like several times (lol) in my life . And I have been a Moderator in an internet radio station chat box for a few years .. I tire of the mindless talk about sex and just crap . So now im here for conversations maybe more uplifting and positive .. I posted a newbie Blog .. if you care to read it .. and thanks again for what seems to be a warm welcome ..
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Danna,

Pretty much everything you listed I remember being the norm as a young kid. I came a little late to the scene, being born in '71, but a lot of things you listed were the norm-but-being-phased-out. By the time the 80's rolled around YW were wearing jeans, shorts were acceptable (I have early memories of my brothers bitching about having to wear jeans during the Summer), however, most of your list was still the de facto Mormon culture. My tweak on your list:

No wearing black.

No bikinis for my sister. No dresses above the knees. Shoulders had to be covered.

Meat must be well-cooked.

Reading material was strictly monitored; no read books about witches or the occult. Harry Potter would have been banned in my house.

I had to take piano lessons since I might need it in the mission field. I wanted to take guitar, but it was a no-go.

Jewellery and trinkets could not depict a cross.

Dungeons and dragons was actually occult training. Banned.

The devil really did rule the water. No swimming, at all, on Sundays. I had similar panicked feelings when in the water.

Malicious evil spirits did exist and could get you. They were constantly trying to invade physical bodies, so you had to be really careful not to do anything to let them get in. ESPECIALLY after midnight. If I was unlucky enough to wake up after 12 as a kid I would freak out. Hated it.

Hypnotism was actually possession by an evil spirit. Getting drunk or stoned also involved the risk of possession, so did reading 'bad' books and listening to bad music.

Popular music caused people to do evil things, and to allow for evil spirits to take over the listener. Rock music and MTV were the Devil.

Faith healing and other miraculous things done by non-mormons were actually the work of the devil who was tricking people into following the wrong faith.

No face card games. Playing cards were banned until Uno came along. lol..

No tv on Sundays; that eventually went away.

All chores had to be done Saturday so we could "rest" on Sunday. Remember that Primary song about getting stuff done on Saturday?

No dating until 16. Had to be a group date.

No caffeinated sodas; that eventually went away.

Family prayer in a circle on our knees, everyone had to hold hands. Twice a day.

I remember Church on Sunday, family home evening on Monday, Mutual on Tuesday, Scouts on Wed, my parents doing Home/Visit Teaching on Thur, their date night on Friday, Saturday was time to play and get ready for Sunday. Rinse. Repeat. The Church used to control a lot of our time. Very regimented. This all eventually changed..

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If Mormons want to know why a lot of ex-Mormons are pissed at "the church" then they just need to look at this list. That's a lot of BS. And that's not even the half of it. It's just what I can remember off the top of my head. What an incredible mindf*** the Church was. Am I personally still "mad"? Nah. But the truth is it took me years to get through it. Reviewing this list I kind of understand why. The Mo' church used to be pretty deeply ingrained in its membership. I'm not so sure any more...

Anyway. The Mormon church these days isn't what it was. It was definitely more cultish back in the 60's and 70's. But these days? I think it's a pale version of itself. If they got rid of the temple it would be pretty ordinary. Oh, well. If that's what people need to be happy... More power to them...




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I have read this thread.
I have read When Virgins Collide (on sunstoneblog), something is worth to read.

Where (and when) do Mormons live?

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ludwigm wrote:I have read When Virgins Collide (on sunstoneblog), something is worth to read.


Oh man, that link (at least the first half) was funnier than Hell! Especially the line:

"I didn’t mean to scream. More than twenty years later, I’m still apologizing for it."

You have to read the link to get the full impact. :-)
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Dr. Shades wrote:
ludwigm wrote:I have read When Virgins Collide (on sunstoneblog), something is worth to read.


Oh man, that link (at least the first half) was funnier than Hell! Especially the line:

"I didn’t mean to scream. More than twenty years later, I’m still apologizing for it."

You have to read the link to get the full impact. :-)

I don't see why the guy should have been so disheartened by his wife screaming when she saw his Johnson. On the contrary, he should have smiled proudly that it could achieve that level of impressiveness. Far better to have your new bride scream at the sight of your manhood than to have her giggle at it instead.
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antishock8 wrote:Danna,

Pretty much everything you listed I remember being the norm as a young kid. I came a little late to the scene, being born in '71, but a lot of things you listed were the norm-but-being-phased-out. By the time the 80's rolled around YW were wearing jeans, shorts were acceptable (I have early memories of my brothers bitching about having to wear jeans during the Summer), however, most of your list was still the de facto Mormon culture. My tweak on your list:

No wearing black.

No bikinis for my sister. No dresses above the knees. Shoulders had to be covered.

Meat must be well-cooked.

Reading material was strictly monitored; no read books about witches or the occult. Harry Potter would have been banned in my house.

I had to take piano lessons since I might need it in the mission field. I wanted to take guitar, but it was a no-go.

Jewellery and trinkets could not depict a cross.

Dungeons and dragons was actually occult training. Banned.

The devil really did rule the water. No swimming, at all, on Sundays. I had similar panicked feelings when in the water.

Malicious evil spirits did exist and could get you. They were constantly trying to invade physical bodies, so you had to be really careful not to do anything to let them get in. ESPECIALLY after midnight. If I was unlucky enough to wake up after 12 as a kid I would freak out. Hated it.

Hypnotism was actually possession by an evil spirit. Getting drunk or stoned also involved the risk of possession, so did reading 'bad' books and listening to bad music.

Popular music caused people to do evil things, and to allow for evil spirits to take over the listener. Rock music and MTV were the Devil.

Faith healing and other miraculous things done by non-mormons were actually the work of the devil who was tricking people into following the wrong faith.

No face card games. Playing cards were banned until Uno came along. lol..

No tv on Sundays; that eventually went away.

All chores had to be done Saturday so we could "rest" on Sunday. Remember that Primary song about getting stuff done on Saturday?

No dating until 16. Had to be a group date.

No caffeinated sodas; that eventually went away.

Family prayer in a circle on our knees, everyone had to hold hands. Twice a day.

I remember Church on Sunday, family home evening on Monday, Mutual on Tuesday, Scouts on Wed, my parents doing Home/Visit Teaching on Thur, their date night on Friday, Saturday was time to play and get ready for Sunday. Rinse. Repeat. The Church used to control a lot of our time. Very regimented. This all eventually changed..

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If Mormons want to know why a lot of ex-Mormons are pissed at "the church" then they just need to look at this list. That's a lot of b***s***. And that's not even the half of it. It's just what I can remember off the top of my head. What an incredible mindf*** the Church was. Am I personally still "mad"? Nah. But the truth is it took me years to get through it. Reviewing this list I kind of understand why. The Mo' church used to be pretty deeply ingrained in its membership. I'm not so sure any more...

Anyway. The Mormon church these days isn't what it was. It was definitely more cultish back in the 60's and 70's. But these days? I think it's a pale version of itself. If they got rid of the temple it would be pretty ordinary. Oh, well. If that's what people need to be happy... More power to them...




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True so true but then some.

I am twenty years your senior. The church has opened up a lot in those twenty years, you were blessed. Living in a small, totally Mormon, little town in rural Idaho we were pretty close to life ala Warren Jeffs without the polygamy.
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Sethbag wrote:I don't see why the guy should have been so disheartened by his wife screaming when she saw his Johnson. On the contrary, he should have smiled proudly that it could achieve that level of impressiveness.


You know, that's an excellent point.

Far better to have your new bride scream at the sight of your manhood than to have her giggle at it instead.


Indeed!
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"

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Lessee.... I also remember:

Fasting for two meals on Sundays, which turned into one meal when my parents got really fat.

Going tracting with the missionaries as young teenagers in order to prepare us for a mission. How f***ed up is that? We were in some pretty bad neighborhoods... Phew.
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Sethbag wrote:Far better to have your new bride scream at the sight of your manhood than to have her giggle at it instead.


Or to look at it and say, "Sorry, I don't smoke".
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liz3564 wrote:Danna, I feel like we belonged to a different Church. Either that, or growing up in California just put me as a different breed of Mormon. LOL


I felt bad for Danna when I read that. It was vastly different from my experience too. Oh well, some people overdo everything. The sad thing is we do reward members for being overzealous in their dedication to what they believe is part of their faith.

That devil in the water stuff really sounds 10th Century to me. Something that would require a dragon's tooth to overcome.
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