A MAD Porn Thread

[_The Dude]

Long ago religious folks flipped a coin and decided that pornography was wrong, so they began conditioning all their believers to have the same point of view. Likewise, each generation has jumped on the bandwagon and instilled the same set of neuroses into the next.

Great post Dr. Shades. Fantastic, really.

My point of view is that pornography is one of the greatest gifts that God has given us, to be relished and partaken of in the spirit of joy and thanksgiving.

Greatest gift of god, huh? I differ from you in that I think porn is kind of silly, and may be worthy of mockery. (I used to know a woman who was a stripper and once I got to know her, I'm sorry to say, she was a brainless moron. So much for my fantasies! LOL) The only thing sillier than porn is people like Dr. Cline and mentalGym who get blue in the face and call it an apocalyptic scourge.

[_Ray A]

Great post Dr. Shades. Fantastic, really.

I second that.

[_asbestosman]

As long as the kids and the animals are left out of it, what's wrong with acting out? If more people acted out, there would be a lot fewer wars in this world.

Why is ok to kill animals for food, but wrong to keep them alive and let them willingly join with you in something pleasurable?

[_The Dude]

As long as the kids and the animals are left out of it, what's wrong with acting out? If more people acted out, there would be a lot fewer wars in this world.

Why is ok to kill animals for food, but wrong to keep them alive and let them willingly join with you in something pleasurable?

Is it illegal to have sex with animals? Just curious if any states have drawn a line on that. Personally, I don't want to google it because I hear the FBI keeps track of my searches.

[_Danna]

As long as the kids and the animals are left out of it, what's wrong with acting out? If more people acted out, there would be a lot fewer wars in this world.

Why is ok to kill animals for food, but wrong to keep them alive and let them willingly join with you in something pleasurable?

An animal cannot consent. It must be treated humanely, no matter what it's ultimate purpose is. Humane treatment includes allowing for species typical behaviour as far as possible, and not forcing non-species typical behaviour on the animal without bloody good reason. Being forced to engage in non-species behaviour is a well-documented source of physiological stress for a wide range of animals.

You will not see a chimpanzee tea-party at the zoo these days. No responsible ethics committee would give permission to train chimps in 'human tricks', most especially if the purpose is simply for human gratification. Tea party, or porn flick, both are inherently inhumane.

Yes, your dog may hump your leg every now and then, but that in no way is justification for inflicting human sexual behaviour on an animal (no more than seeing a two year-old playing with themselves justifies an adult inflicting adult behaviour on the child). Your humping dog is simply demonstrating that it has been over-socialised to humans.

We have a responsibility to care for the animals we have domesticated, and for animals exploited for food, we must take care to give them the best (i.e. species typical) life and least distressing death that we can. To train an animal to engage in non-species typical behaviour for the sole purpose of human gratification is no longer acceptable.

[_asbestosman]

An animal cannot consent.

Correct, and the rest of your post contains excelent points. However, I don't know of any animals that consent to me killing them for food. Similarly, we allow adults to consnt to sex, but not to be killed for food. I find that odd even though somehow I agree with it.

[_Ray A]

As long as the kids and the animals are left out of it, what's wrong with acting out? If more people acted out, there would be a lot fewer wars in this world.

Why is ok to kill animals for food, but wrong to keep them alive and let them willingly join with you in something pleasurable?

A good KFC always goes down well with me, especially a chicken fillet burger. But I reserve sex for my own species. Besides, I'd hate to be called a chicken F*****.

[_asbestosman]

Personally, I don't want to google it because I hear the FBI keeps track of my searches.

You could always try an obscure search engine that the FBI won't look into.

[_Danna]

Is it illegal to have sex with animals? Just curious if any states have drawn a line on that. Personally, I don't want to google it because I hear the FBI keeps track of my searches.

Not in NZ, anyway, although it is one activity on the list of things covered up by the Mormons:

Caccioppoli, 36, admitted 13 charges when he appeared in the Invercargill District Court on Friday, including five of committing indecent acts on a boy under 12 and a further three on two other victims aged between 12 and 16.

He was also convicted of one charge of sexual violation, one of indecent assault and two charges of assault.

He also admitted an indecent act with a bull mastiff dog.

The offending took place between 1990, when Caccioppoli was about 19, and September last year.

A source close to the Latter-day Saints told the Sunday Star-Times Caccioppoli had told church social agencies and leaders about his offending and was told to "try harder".

The source said Caccioppoli worked with young children at the Sunday School unsupervised and often organised activities.

"He thought nothing of driving them on their own somewhere."

[_The Dude]

We have a responsibility to care for the animals we have domesticated, and for animals exploited for food, we must take care to give them the best (i.e. species typical) life and least distressing death that we can. To train an animal to engage in non-species typical behaviour for the sole purpose of human gratification is no longer acceptable.

Ancient pastoralists "flipped a coin" to determine "species typical" behavior for many domestic animals: dogs, horses, cattle, sheep, cats. Ancient humans did this for human gratification, plain and simple. Animals have been made into servants and slaves, not to mention textiles and agricultural products in the name of human gratification. Now some of them are movie stars. Why not porn stars? Sorry, but I think Asbestosman has a point.

Unless it is illegal. (Relating to an earlier point of Abman's).