The Top Ten Happenings in Mopologetics 2008

[_Jason Bourne]

Look again. Why isn't Scottie rushing to censor me? I mean, I don't get a signature line.

Scottie: I'm not censoring you because everything you've said is completely true and none of these things are personal attacks.

[The REAL Scottie: Bob, KNOCK OFF THE MOD IMITATIONS!!!!!!!][/quote]


Hey

My spelling errors are just because I am lazy and post fast in between things. I will try to do better.

I do agree that I am a damned anonymous coward and hypocrite as well.

[_KimberlyAnn]

Bob,

This isn't going to work anymore. You'll need to "up the tech" so to speak. And isn't "malevolent" an adjective?

As for what you said about me, [Post edited for personal attack]



[Mod Scottie: Gad, YOU KNOCK OFF THE MOD IMITATIONS TOO!!!!]

Scottie, what's up with the obnoxious "Edited by Scottie" stamp?

It's quite off-putting. Very unattractive, in my opinion.

Obtrusive.

I think the red type is sufficient.

KA

[_Trevor]

Then why, Dan, were long-time messageboard participants such as Dr. Shades (a vehement critic, no less!) surprised to learn that you had collected money? Why did you mention your salary when the discussion was very clearly and obviously directed toward payment for apologetics?

The answer seems pretty obvious: you were trying to deflect attention away from the fact that this little "hobby" of yours is extremely well-funded.

I may disagree with you on a lot of things, Scratch, and that includes much of your interpretation of the significance of FARMS, NMI, and money, but the repeated denials concerning money and apologetics have been, well, silly.

I have a friend who owns several pieces of property, but technically the property is owned by several corporations she created. Still, I think she would own up to the fact that essentially the properties are hers. If she were Dr. Peterson right now, she would be repeatedly denying that she owns the properties, and she would be technically correct. In the end, though, we all know who is responsible for the corporations and who ultimately benefits.

NMI is a part of BYU, which is under the control of the LDS Church. Dr. Peterson is an employee of BYU and a defender of the Church. He is a member of the executive council of NMI, and participates in the apologetic effort (an apologetic article by DCP is currently featured on the NMI homepage). I may not be able to connect his work on apologetics to his contract except in the most indirect way (like citizenship), but I do not believe that apologetics has never been viewed as part of his career--the one for which he is paid--in any way by his superiors.

There is sometimes a difference between the truth and a legalistic point of fact. If the issue boils down to a legalistic point of fact (and in the case of DCP's denials concerning money and apologetics I most certainly think it does), then why so persistent in the denials? It all seems rather pointless, and only provides further fodder for Scratch.

There is no big deal. "Truth" is not served by pushing the difference here.

[_Bryan Inks]

Scottie, what's up with the obnoxious "Edited by Scottie" stamp?

It's quite off-putting. Very unattractive, in my opinion.

Obtrusive.

I think the red type is sufficient.

KA

I know my opinion doesn't really carry any weight because of how infrequently I post here anymore, but I like Scottie's stamp.

Regardless of his actual intent, I think it shows not only a sense of humor but also an expression of sincerity in doing his job.

But that's just me and I'm hoping that this "experiment" falls on its face. Especially for those god-awful emoticons.

[_TAK]

Hey Crock,
Don't you have some 16 year old's confessions to hear or something?

If I'm not mistaken he was released from that calling.

He manage to last at least 5 years?

[_LifeOnaPlate]

How about "Jay Leno-chinned dweeb"?

I can honestly say no one has ever accused me of having a large chin. A big nose, little hair, but not chin.

[_Scottie]

Bob,

This isn't going to work anymore. You'll need to "up the tech" so to speak. And isn't "malevolent" an adjective?

As for what you said about me, [Post edited for personal attack]



[Mod Scottie: Gad, YOU KNOCK OFF THE MOD IMITATIONS TOO!!!!]

Scottie, what's up with the obnoxious "Edited by Scottie" stamp?

It's quite off-putting. Very unattractive, in my opinion.

Obtrusive.

I think the red type is sufficient.

KA

I just wanted to try it once. Chris made it for me. I thought it was kind of cool, but, yeah, it's a bit much.

[_KimberlyAnn]

I just wanted to try it once. Chris made it for me. I thought it was kind of cool, but, yeah, it's a bit much.

It's just too big and too red.

Maybe if it were smaller and less obtrusive it would look better.

It looks kind of like the stamp I imagine employers using to mark the employment applications of candidates in which they're not interested.

"DECLINED!"

"UNQUALIFIED!"

"LOOOOSER!"

There's just a negative, obnoxious quality about it that's off-putting. Hey, it's kinda like me!

I know the intent was good. :)

KA

[_CaliforniaKid]

I think the stamp is awesome, though it should probably be reserved for blatant offenders...

[_Daniel Peterson]

the repeated denials concerning money and apologetics have been, well, silly.

If the truth is silly, I'll still go with the truth.

I have a friend who owns several pieces of property, but technically the property is owned by several corporations she created. Still, I think she would own up to the fact that essentially the properties are hers. If she were Dr. Peterson right now, she would be repeatedly denying that she owns the properties, and she would be technically correct. In the end, though, we all know who is responsible for the corporations and who ultimately benefits.

Apples and oranges, Trevor.

NMI is a part of BYU, which is under the control of the LDS Church. Dr. Peterson is an employee of BYU and a defender of the Church. He is a member of the executive council of NMI, and participates in the apologetic effort (an apologetic article by DCP is currently featured on the NMI homepage). I may not be able to connect his work on apologetics to his contract except in the most indirect way (like citizenship), but I do not believe that apologetics has never been viewed as part of his career--the one for which he is paid--in any way by his superiors.

Whether you believe it or not, my salary is set in the Department of Asian and Near Eastern Languages, which cares that I teach courses about Arabic and the Near East and that I edit the Islamic Translation Series, the Medical Works of Moses Maimonides, the Eastern Christian Texts series, and the Library of the Christian East, but has no interest in whether or not I speak at FAIR or edit the FARMS Review.

You can speculate and opine all you like about the conditions of my employment, but, unless you're really my department chairman, you've never been present for my annual interview with him nor read my annual stewardship report. But I have.

There is sometimes a difference between the truth and a legalistic point of fact. If the issue boils down to a legalistic point of fact (and in the case of DCP's denials concerning money and apologetics I most certainly think it does), then why so persistent in the denials? It all seems rather pointless, and only provides further fodder for Scratch.

He doesn't need fodder. He feeds on fantasy and distortion.

Pleading guilty to his false accusations wouldn't sate his appetite. Quite the contrary.

I don't care about him. I don't really care about most of the regulars here. They'll think what they want to think, and, in most cases, they'll be wrong. But it's possible that some non-pod-people look in here from time to time, and, for their sake and for the record, I'll occasionally surface here to contradict flatly false claims.