Australia, the movie

[_Ray A]

Well, it's Friday night... Date Night! I'd love to hear what you think of it. And the documentation at the end of it.

Can you give a brief run over of the documentation harm? What's it about?

[_harmony]

Well, it's Friday night... Date Night! I'd love to hear what you think of it. And the documentation at the end of it.

Can you give a brief run over of the documentation harm? What's it about?

It's about the Lost Generation.

[_Ray A]

It's about the Lost Generation.

Okay, the Stolen Generations.

[_cinepro]

I'm sympathetic to the idea that the descendants of those that have "done wrong" are under no obligation to apologize for the actions of their predecessors.

But if that is the case, the Church has been inconsistent on the issue. Whenever someone wants to apologize to the Church for the misdeeds of the past, the Church is only too willing to send a representative to accept the apology. It would be nice if the Church declined the apologies, and explained that the current government and citizens of Missouri and Illinois can't "apologize" for actions committed before they were alive.

[_Ray A]

I'm sympathetic to the idea that the descendants of those that have "done wrong" are under no obligation to apologize for the actions of their predecessors.

That was the cause of the most public debate before the apology was offered to the Stolen Generations. Many Australians felt they had nothing to do with it, therefore nothing to apologise for. And that's one reason Howard never apologised. He also feared subsequent litigation and compensation claims which could run into $billions (still under parliamentary debate).

Once the apology was made, the public majority approved of it.

The Apology. (You Tube)

[_Scottie]

Hugh Jackman IS the sexiest man alive!

I'm hurt!! :)

[_TAK]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... _n19517754

Pshaw..
There is zero acceptance of any responsibility on the part of Brigham Young and George A Smith. - Eyring’s statement reads like it was written by a room fill of attorneys. Which it probably was.

[_Daniel Peterson]

The church takes no responsibility for MMM in that article, Daniel. They blame the local folks. So no... that's not an apology. That's a tap dance.

That's the Church's actual position, not a tap dance. And it's a position shared and argued for by a number of reputable historians.

You're free to dispute it, of course (on the basis of your exposure to message board conversations about it or whatever), but, generally speaking, it seems foolish and pointless for people to apologize for things done by other people and for organizations to apologize for things that they, as organizations, did not do. I'm quite willing to apologize for all the wrongs you've done over the course of your life, but I see little value in it.

For the state of Missouri to apologize for an official act of the state of Missouri, or for the government of Australia to apologize for official acts of the government of Australia, or for the Vatican to apologize for official acts of the Vatican, is reasonable on principle. But that's a different matter.

I know that some here desperately crave an admission of guilt on the part of the Church, Brigham Young, and/or George A. Smith. Tough luck.

[_TAK]

I know that some here desperately crave an admission of guilt on the part of the Church, Brigham Young, and/or George A. Smith. Tough luck.

Even the M@MM authors placed someof the blame for atmosphere in Southern Utah on Young and Smith but as long as Church leaders retain the arrogance that has been shown for 150 years, the matter will never go away..

oh.. Tough luck

[_Jason Bourne]

Well, it's Friday night... Date Night! I'd love to hear what you think of it. And the documentation at the end of it.

Can't go tonight. I am stuck at work on a project. But I did take my wife out last night for dinner.

But this will be on my list for next week.