Do LDS Actually believe this stuff?

[_John Larsen]

I never heard of Zelph while I was a main line member. I suspect most members either don't know about it or think it is anti-Mormon propaganda.

[Guest]

There's heaps of interesting stuff on that website:

http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/DocuList.htm

They even have President Benson's "communist-negro conspiracy" talk from 1967:

1. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder. Not one in a thousand Americans — black or white — really understands the full implications of today’s civil rights agitation. The planning, direction, and leadership come from the Communists, and most of those are white men who fully intend to destroy America by spilling Negro blood, rather than their own.

http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/GenlAuthor ... lltalk.htm

And this gem about carbon dating:

These erroneous dates demonstrate that the assumptions used in radioactive dating cannot be trusted. As a result, the dates that one gets from radioactive dating cannot be trusted, either.

http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/Carbon%201 ... -Wile.html

Also, J. Rueben Clark's ideas on when a Church leader's words are "scripture":

The very words of the revelation recognize that the Brethren may speak when they are not "moved upon by the Holy Ghost"; yet only when they do speak as "moved upon" is what they say considered scripture. No exceptions are given to this rule or principle. It is universal in its application.

The question is, how shall we know when the things they have spoken were said as they were "moved upon by the Holy Ghost"? I have given some thought to this question, and the answer thereto, so far as I can determine, is: We can tell when the speakers are "moved upon by the Holy Ghost" only when we, ourselves, are "moved upon by the Holy Ghost." In a way, this completely shifts the responsibility from them to us to determine when they so speak.

That's all great and dandy, but then he says....

There have been rare occasions when even the President of the Church in his teaching and preaching has not been "moved upon by the Holy Ghost." You will recall the Prophet Joseph declared that a prophet is not always a prophet.

http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/ClarkWhenA ... itings.htm
Emphasis added

How far we've come that now it is rare for the prophet to actually be speaking as such.

This article is good too:

DNA and Lamanites Don't miss the part about the Quakers on the moon.

[_Trevor]

There's heaps of interesting stuff on that website:

Whoa.

[_SatanWasSetUp]

The Zelph story really illustrates how Joseph could not help but make up stories. So they're walking through the woods, and someone says, "Hey everyone, we found a skeleton of some dead guy over here. Check it out." So they all go rushing over there and dig up the skeleton. Joseph has an opportunity to say, "Gee, it looks like some guy died and got buried here. Cool." But instead he kneels in prayer and gets a "revelation" about the skeleton. The revelation gives him a name, and a geneology, and even says who his prophet was. Lo and behold the skeleton happens to be the remains of a General in the Book of Mormon wars. Amazing. Out of all the skeletons they could've stumbled upon - a random peasant, a farmer, an indian - they stumble upon a Book of Mormon General who died in the final battle. Not only that, but he was dark and had his skin miraculously turned white because of his righteousness. What an amazing discovery! LOL. I am totally baffled why anthorpoligists don't have these bones locked away somewhere for study. This is truly one of the most important discoveries in American history.

[_Ray A]

I am waiting for the theory of the location of the third Cumorah.

Bali. It's hot and has lots of natives, or "others".

[_TAK]

There's heaps of interesting stuff on that website:

Whoa.

If you ever want to know how petty these leaders are .. there is advice as to what colors to use and when in marking scriptures...

[_harmony]

I am totally baffled why anthorpoligists don't have these bones locked away somewhere for study. This is truly one of the most important discoveries in American history.

A confederate of Kennewick Man! Now why didn't Joseph think of that?