Internet vs Chapel Mormons and Mormon Apologetics

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Re: Internet vs Chapel Mormons and Mormon Apologetics

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GoodK wrote:Wow. Really? Calling an adult a kid in a pejorative way doesn't register on your radar?


Hmmm....I'm old enough to be your Mom. You're an adult, but since most of my students are your age, and I refer to them as kids, I might refer to you the same way. It wouldn't be an insult on my part. I'm just old. LOL

And, frankly, if you referred to me as a girl, I'd be thrilled. :wink:
GoodK wrote:On a side note, I am noticing that the moderators are giving Mormonism's biggest apologist (no pun intended) a pass when it comes to the new moderating standards.


In all seriousness, Eric, is there a specific link where you feel like Daniel has been given a pass? I would like to see it rectified if that is the case. We really do our best to be fair.
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GoodK wrote:
harmony wrote:Calling someone a good kid isn't usually considered an insult.


Wow. Really? Calling an adult a kid in a pejorative way doesn't register on your radar? Okay. I hope you don't mind being called little girl from here on out.


You're showing your age, GoodK. Only the young worry about things like this. I'm not going to be insulted by being called "little girl". For one thing, I know I'm not little, and I know I'm not a girl. There is no perjorative though, in either one.

You may be able to make a case that Daniel is twisting your name, and that's a personal insult (and then I'll agree and make the edit), but you haven't made your case that being called a good kid is an insult.

Or maybe I should just band together with a couple of friends, make exaggerated lists of people who are true to my cause, and hold Dr. Shades hostage with demands of changing the board until it fits my liking. I've seen that work before.


You're entitled to your opinion, the same as anyone else is, GoodK. You get one vote. Use it wisely.

Well keep checking... I don't want you to moderate his posts. I'm just making an observation.


I moderate his posts the same way I moderate everyone else's. He doesn't get a free pass.

Dictionary's are good for that sort of problem. Presumably you have Internet access.


You mean that's a real word? Good grief.
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Re: Internet vs Chapel Mormons and Mormon Apologetics

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Daniel Peterson wrote: LOL.


"Talking about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself."

Friedrich Nietzsche

GoodK wrote:Have you asked Shades whether I seem like an unethical monster of cruelty?


Why would I? I don't think I ever called you an unethical monster of cruelty.

This is typical folks. Peterson always goes this route in conversations like this. It's best if you imagine him making this face.

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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Insults are what you wish for in the case of people toward whom you feel no anger.


Just because I dislike you, think you peddle snake oil, and find your behavior towards me and others you view as members of the outgroup to be repugnant and worthy of contempt does not mean I'm angry.

I realize that you want to paint me as an angry anti-Mormon, as per your modus operandi.

You are becoming a caricature of yourself.



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liz3564 wrote:In all seriousness, Eric, is there a specific link where you feel like Daniel has been given a pass? I would like to see it rectified if that is the case. We really do our best to be fair.


I honestly feel like DCP is a charlatan - and yet when I said as much my post was censored. But DCP calls me a kid, pejoratively, calls the author of a post in this thread a "poor fellow" and calls his statement "pathetic" and makes all sorts bizarre accusations about me worshiping a scientist, being angry, belligerent, sad, etc. without a sneeze from our new moderators who, correct me if I'm wrong, signed up to clean up the mean streets of the Terrestrial forum in an attempt to lure back some of Harmony's hostages.


Please don't censor any of his posts - or anyone else on my behalf - I loathe censorship. Just pointing out an inconsistency I have observed, little girl :wink:
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Re: Internet vs Chapel Mormons and Mormon Apologetics

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GoodK wrote:Please don't censor any of his posts - or anyone else on my behalf - I loathe censorship. Just pointing out an inconsistency I have observed, little girl :wink:


I'm playing catch up. I haven't been on the board much in the last few days. Let me look into the inconsistencies, kiddo. :lol:
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Re: Internet vs Chapel Mormons and Mormon Apologetics

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harmony wrote:You may be able to make a case that Daniel is twisting your name, and that's a personal insult (and then I'll agree and make the edit), but you haven't made your case that being called a good kid is an insult.

I have no intention at all of making an insult in this case.

If I want to insult somebody, I'm perfectly capable of doing it -- and of doing it reasonably effectively.

GoodK wrote:I don't think I ever called you an unethical monster of cruelty.

I don't think I ever said that you had used the precise phrase.

GoodK wrote:This is typical folks. Peterson always goes this route in conversations like this. It's best if you imagine him making this face.

You seem to imagine that you're addressing a considerable audience. I wonder why.

Anyway, it would be more accurate if people imagined me making this face:

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GoodK wrote:Just because I dislike you, think you peddle snake oil, and find your behavior towards me and others you view as members of the outgroup to be repugnant and worthy of contempt [and feel compelled to say so multiple times daily] does not mean I'm angry.

Right.

GoodK wrote:I realize that you want to paint me as an angry anti-Mormon, as per your modus operandi.

Unfortunately, your kind and courteous deportment toward me has made my fiendish plan exceedingly difficult to carry out. But I persevere!

GoodK wrote:You are becoming a caricature of yourself.

http://www.shields-research.org/Humor/dcp_alter.htm
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Daniel Peterson wrote:You seem to imagine that you're addressing a considerable audience. I wonder why.


Tongue-in-cheek and hyperbole are words you should write on a post-it and stick to your monitor.

Unfortunately, your kind and courteous deportment toward me has made my fiendish plan exceedingly difficult to carry out. But I persevere!


If you really believe like I am behaving unreasonably might I remind you I, and I believe Liz can attest to this, that I sang a much different tune regarding DCP sans the comment about my little sister. Saying that I was insensitive - among other things - to my sister dying in the hospital because of my musing anonymously on a message board is one of the biggest insults that has ever been hurled at me. Seriously.

You never apologized for that and I feel no need to apologize.
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GoodK wrote:Saying that I was insensitive - among other things - to my sister dying in the hospital because of my musing anonymously on a message board is one of the biggest insults that has ever been hurled at me. Seriously.

But, if it was hurled at all, it was never hurled by me.

Never. Ever. I said nothing of the kind.

If you think otherwise, please provide a statement from me in which I accuse you of having been insensitive or uncaring toward your sister.

GoodK wrote:You never apologized for that and I feel no need to apologize.

I tend not to apologize for things I haven't done. It's one of my many very bad qualities.
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GoodK wrote:Saying that I was insensitive - among other things - to my sister dying in the hospital because of my musing anonymously on a message board is one of the biggest insults that has ever been hurled at me. Seriously.



Daniel Peterson wrote:
I said nothing of the kind.

If you think otherwise, please provide a statement from me in which I accuse you of having been insensitive or uncaring toward your sister.



As much as I'd like to wade through the 30 pages of the lovely Why I Am Not A Mormon thread - I have some work to get done before midnight. But start at page 10.

Here is one statement, though:

From page 2 of Why I Am Not A Mormon

Daniel Peterson wrote:
frankly, most in the general public, if not here, would have taken GoodK's derision of his father as counting against GoodK rather than against GoodK's father (and particularly so at a time of severe family crisis)
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Re: Internet vs Chapel Mormons and Mormon Apologetics

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GoodK wrote:As much as I'd like to wade through the 30 pages of the lovely Why I Am Not A Mormon thread - I have some work to get done before midnight. But start at page 10.

Here is one statement, though:

From page 2 of Why I Am Not A Mormon

Daniel Peterson wrote:
frankly, most in the general public, if not here, would have taken GoodK's derision of his father as counting against GoodK rather than against GoodK's father (and particularly so at a time of severe family crisis)

Well, as it happens, we've already discussed this. And I've reviewed the relevant materials.

Nothing in what you've cited above accuses you of insensitivity toward or lack of concern for your sister. Nothing in what I've reviewed does so, either. And I can confidently say, based on my own knowledge of myself, that such a thought never so much as entered my mind. What struck me in this regard, rather, was the distinct lack of charity toward your stepfather, at a time when most people would, I think, regard him as needing considerable sympathy and support.

I'm not particularly interested, but you may want to discuss this yet again. It won't change a thing. Not even if the whole Scrollo chorus breaks forth into the olde time melodies once more.
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