Cultural Similarity

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_maklelan
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Re: Cultural Similarity

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John Larsen wrote:You think so eh? Unless they have changed the way the do linguistics since I graduated, your opinion doesn't matter for much. Nothing personal. Science is based on evidence and method. Not on well educated hunches--unless those hunches are validated through experimentation.


Not a very creative way to flippantly dismiss a methodology that conflicts with your a priori assumptions.

John Larsen wrote:Once again, how do you know that your "2000" similarities are not then norm. So far the only answer you have given is that you happen to "speak" 4 languages.


Actually comparative Semitics is what provides the real insight. Like I said before, you can't find that in any two unrelated languages. You know you can't possibly engage that fact, so you just have to try to dismiss it. Not very objective argumentation.
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Re: Cultural Similarity

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As You know (from now on ...), finnish and hungarian are close relatives. The kinship can be shown by similar rules of grammar, not by similar words.

Certainly, there are words which sound OR look similarly. If there are 2000 or more or less, I don't know.

Here is a great example, widely known in Hungary.

The train comes.
In hungarian, it is "jön a vonat".
In finnish, it is "jöna vona".
The pronunciation is similar, finns open their mouths a little more.

the = "a" (finns do not use definite article here)

train = "vonat" in H, "jöna" in F
comes = "jön" in H, "vona" in F


As You see, there may be very similar words.
You can find this :lol:, but this is a real example.
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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Re: Cultural Similarity

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ludwigm wrote:As You know (from now on ...), finnish and hungarian are close relatives. The kinship can be shown by similar rules of grammar, not by similar words.

Certainly, there are words which sound OR look similarly. If there are 2000 or more or less, I don't know.

Here is a great example, widely known in Hungary.

The train comes.
In hungarian, it is "jön a vonat".
In finnish, it is "jöna vona".
The pronunciation is similar, finns open their mouths a little more.

the = "a" (finns do not use definite article here)

train = "vonat" in H, "jöna" in F
comes = "jön" in H, "vona" in F


As You see, there may be very similar words.
You can find this :lol:, but this is a real example.


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- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco
- To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
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