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_gramps
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Hey, I decided to make this its own thread, since it is becoming quite interesting. I will just post in to here, what I previously have posted in the experiment thread. Go there to see Lamanite's post where he suggests it is something with the board or its posters that gets him so riled up. Since, I witnessed him making personal threats over on the other board, I am going to call him on it.

Those threats no longer exist on that board because someone early this morning edited them out.

Sorry, Lamanite, the edit was a bit too late. Here it all is:

From the experiment thread, Lamanite wrote:

Just make me a mod and I'll fix this place right up!
I'm pretty sure Richard Bushman and Dan Vogel, with John W moderating, could have a debate without resorting to petty insults and personal attacks.

I'm pretty sure we could pull it off too. IF, honest intellectual debate and learning were even a smidgen of the purpose for this board. Or maybe its not the board and just the participants. I don't know. I just know I've never threatened to punch someone in the throat until I started posting here. Coincidence? Maybe.


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From the experiment thread, gramps' response:


You seem like a nice guy. But, sometimes you are full of s###.

You personally threatened a new poster on the MADness board. I called you on it and invited you up on to the rocks. See here:

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... 7314&st=20

Remember, you were spouting off about constitutional stuff and that poster let you know that you didn't know what on earth you were talking about. Your head was basically up where the sun don't shine. BIG UP!

You took it personally enough to try and scare him. The big bully in charge of controlling new posters over on MAD. That is you, at times.

I am sure hoping no one would even consider for a nano second having you here as a moderator. What a joke.

That was the other board, not this board. It doesn't matter what board you are on. You are unstable, in my view, anyway.

Edited to add: For some reason, that link doesn't work. Funny, it works from my pm box. Just paste it in. It's there and a very interesting read.

Second edit: This is becoming hilarious, and really sad. Someone has pulled Lamanite's offensive threat thinking none of us would be able to read it. But, I saved it. Here it is. This is the full quote before someone this early morning (utah time) took it out.


Well, here it is, in its unedited glory:


Quote:
I made room for error in the document. Also, I would like a reference from the constitution stating "racial slavery is awesome". It appears you are intellectually inept and dishonest. Women not voting is a cultural phenomenon that has been repaired. The documents ability to adjust and evolve for the further protection of God given rights is Divine in my opinion. It truly is a living document.

My knowledge of Scalia's jurisprudence is sufficient. (This next paragraph has now disappeared.)

You sure have a mouthy tone for only being here (MAD) a week. Take it slow, and please be careful how you approach people. Some of us are not as far away as your computer would have you believe. Just pretend I am in the room when you post and you won't be as brave as you were in this last post. There are crazies in cyberspace, you never know how short some of our fuses really are.
Lamanite


Who are you going to blame for that one, Lamanite? And, yes, you still have no clue about jurisprudence. That stuff above doesn't even make sense. LOL

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I chalk it up to youthful hubris.
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I guess it should be pointed out that he didn't threaten to punch anyone in the throat in the post to which you refer, no? ;)
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:A good example of a thread for my general and growing disinterest in this place.


I'm sure it either escaped you or you forgot, but the impetus for this thread comes from MAD. Are you suffering from a similiar growing disinterest in MAD?
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harmony wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:A good example of a thread for my general and growing disinterest in this place.


I'm sure it either escaped you or you forgot, but the impetus for this thread comes from MAD. Are you suffering from a similiar growing disinterest in MAD?


Good point, I sort of am, yes. (I must have edited my comment while you were responding to it, by the way. But given a choice between the two I'd take MAD.

From what I understand the purpose of this thread is to call Lamanite out for saying the board here helps bring out the worst in him as evidenced by his "punch in the throat" comment. Then it was shown he had a heated exchange on MAD as well. So I think that is what the thread is intended to show, thus saying Lamanite is wrong, or a liar, or unreliable, or in short, trying to smear him in some way. A nice thread-encapsulated personal attack for this board, it's true. Another good reason to not become involved here.


I think, by the way, he was egged on considerably in that case of the throat punch here. Talk of mind-raping and other insults generally were completely inappropriate. Someone on the board has made jokes about raping my dog, for another example of the amazingly poor conversation that occurs here.
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I think Gramps was simply pointing out inconsistencies.

So given a choice between relative freedom and tyranny, you'd take tyranny. Given a choice between relative freedom and oppression, you'd take oppression.

Good to know.

And please don't say MAD doesn't represent tyranny and oppression. I've been there. I've seen it for myself.
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harmony wrote:I think Gramps was simply pointing out inconsistencies.

So given a choice between relative freedom and tyranny, you'd take tyranny. Given a choice between relative freedom and oppression, you'd take oppression.

Good to know.


I think self-censorship the best form, personally. There appears to be nothing contemptible in the thread a mod might take into consideration, perhaps, but the general air it lends the board is one of tabloid gossip, finger-pointing, and general neener-neenery. Not the best way to spend a morning for me. Others like it quite a lot, and Us Weekly, People magazine, and other such rags are big sellers.

And please don't say MAD doesn't represent tyranny and oppression. I've been there. I've seen it for myself.


Tyranny and oppression on an internet message board. You must live a charmed life.

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This is fascinating. Why is it, I wonder, that Mopologists all-too-frequently fall back on threats of violence? Both DCP and The Nehor threatened *me* with physical violence, with The Nehor threatening, in effect, to disembowel me, and DCP suggesting that he would like to murder me with his assault rifle. I find it very sad that, when the chips are down, these individuals are incapable of civil debate and conversation. It must have something to do with the Mopologetic mind-set. Even a nebbish and relatively innocuous type like LoaP had begun to suggest that his rage was threatening to boil over in a physically violent fashion.
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I wonder who edited out the threat on the other board?

That is what really bothered me. I link to the threat, which is there at the time I link it, and then hours later it disappears. I never posted the threat originally, either. Only later, after I found someone was trying to make me look the idiot for linking to a non-existent threat, did I start the new thread. Again, who was that?

What is that all about, LOAP? Makes me look a bit like a liar, doesn't it? People go to that thread and see no editing at all. That is really unbelievable to me.

But, again, you try to change the story around. Lamanites' threat wasn't as bad as the threats on here, so........la di da.

If not a big deal, then why would someone try to make it disappear?
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Mister Scratch wrote:This is fascinating. Why is it, I wonder, that Mopologists all-too-frequently fall back on threats of violence? Both DCP and The Nehor threatened *me* with physical violence, with The Nehor threatening, in effect, to disembowel me, and DCP suggesting that he would like to murder me with his assault rifle. I find it very sad that, when the chips are down, these individuals are incapable of civil debate and conversation. It must have something to do with the Mopologetic mind-set. Even a nebbish and relatively innocuous type like LoaP had begun to suggest that his rage was threatening to boil over in a physically violent fashion.


Exactly, Scratch.

Why do they boil over so easily? For someone like Lamanite, I hope he stays a Mormon and they can keep him under control. As he has stated recently, he would be a low-life loser, or something to that effect, had he not have been saved.
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