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_Bond James Bond
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Scottie wrote:I think Bond even garbled his password, but couldn't stay away! :smile:


I did! But apparently I couldn't stop with the posting.

But I'm doing much better. 4600 posts in less than 2 years vs 200 posts in 6 months. I'll wean myself yet. [Though this post and the fact that Big Love is coming back won't help matters :neutral: ]
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Mike Reed wrote:Is it the entertainment value for you then, Dan? :cool:

Partly.

Another reason: I've explained for years, though few seem to take me seriously, that I'm fascinated by the egregrious incivility and bad behavior in which -- though it's not limited to them -- a significant proportion of apostates and anti-Mormons indulge. I really do find it mesmerizing to observe.

There may be lots of lurkers here, but I have no reason to believe that the numbers are high. And I don't know what kind of "damage" some here imagine themselves to be inflicting, and on whom they imagine they're inflicting it.


That is interesting. If you go over to the the ex-Mormon boards, that is a constant topic there too--the bad behavior of over-zealous members. Every door swings both ways.
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Mike Reed wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:"Inconceivable"]Honestly, I think the TBM's are here for a combination of damage control and prestlyting toward lurkers.


DCP
Neither one of those is true in my case. But I can't speak for others.

Is it the entertainment value for you then, Dan? :cool:

No.
DCP frequents here because rationality rules here.
People here do not discuss "Mumbo Jumbo", "Hodge Podge" events as
reality (at least most of time).
DCP has a normal life too, he can't live in "LaLa" land indefinitely....
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solomarineris wrote:rationality rules here.

Quite so.

And your posts, s&m, represent the very apex of that rationality. They are an inexhaustible source of analytic insight.
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Jersey Girl wrote: I'm completely impressed (words fail me) by the contributions of Danna, Byron, Dale and Alma there. I look in on it every day and there's an enormous amount of talent, working cooperatively through a variety of issues and related topics.


My problem with that thread is that the LDS contributors have contributed a grand total of nothing substantial. Attempts at derailing, red herrings, and jokes, that's all. Were there someone on that thread of the caliber of EE, someone with a level head and some knowledge of the issue, that would be awesome. Unfortunately, there is no one like that who is willing to step up to the plate. Instead we have hit and runs by the disrespectful and drive bys by the ego-driven. The closest we have come is Danna bringing Lindsey's comments (I won't say rebuttal because it obviously wasn't) here.

And I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that this is MDB. I think it's because so far no one's actually come up with an answer, and there is no one brave enough to actually enter the discussion unless they have (or at least think they have) the answer.

I wonder how the Brethren reacted. If they just kicked it to Daniel and Co, I'm going to be disappointed once again.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:[
Neither one of those is true in my case. But I can't speak for others.


Quite right..
One of Dan’s favorite hobbies is to come here and other sites like RFM to mine for outrageous quotes. He will then uses them in firesides and the like to demonstrate what a typical ex-mormon is like.

I am sure he sees this as an effective tool in keeping the tbms wary of anyone that does not believe in their myths
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TAK wrote:One of Dan’s favorite hobbies is to come here and other sites like RFM to mine for outrageous quotes.

Not quite correct. I come here for other reasons -- I've stated at least two of them above, but, as usual, conspiracy theorists and fantasists discount them and look for my Hidden Real Motivation -- but, when I do find outrageous quotes, I sometimes save those quotes. (Am I the only person here, or on the internet generally, who occasionally uses signatures?)

TAK wrote:He will then uses them in firesides and the like to demonstrate what a typical ex-mormon is like.

I can't recall ever having used such a quotation in a fireside (though, at this point, I should probably defer to TAK's superior knowledge of my words and actions) and I think I can confidently say that I have never, ever, generalized from one of them to any kind of universal statement about "what a typical ex-Mormon is like."

TAK wrote:I am sure he sees this as an effective tool in keeping the tbms wary of anyone that does not believe in their myths

"I am sure . . . " The closing testimony is a nice touch.

Was the irony conscious and deliberate, I wonder, or not?
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Mike Reed wrote:Is it the entertainment value for you then, Dan? :cool:

Partly.

Another reason: I've explained for years, though few seem to take me seriously, that I'm fascinated by the egregrious incivility and bad behavior in which -- though it's not limited to them -- a significant proportion of apostates and anti-Mormons indulge.


I've heard this before. Is it because of satan's influence? I was once told by a TBM, while debating the church with her, that she saw Satan's demons whispering in my ear. Do you think our bad behavior and egregrious incivility is caused by Satan and his minions?
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harmony wrote:My problem with that thread is that the LDS contributors have contributed a grand total of nothing substantial. Attempts at derailing, red herrings, and jokes, that's all. Were there someone on that thread of the caliber of EE, someone with a level head and some knowledge of the issue, that would be awesome. Unfortunately, there is no one like that who is willing to step up to the plate. Instead we have hit and runs by the disrespectful and drive bys by the ego-driven. The closest we have come is Danna bringing Lindsey's comments (I won't say rebuttal because it obviously wasn't) here.

And I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that this is MDB. I think it's because so far no one's actually come up with an answer, and there is no one brave enough to actually enter the discussion unless they have (or at least think they have) the answer.

It's really disconcerting that all of the Mormon statisticians and historians and specialists in the Spalding/Rigdon theory who post here have so signally failed to rebut the Criddle paper and Uncle Dale's ruminations.

Their failure to post such a rebuttal on MDB, the premiere venue for such matters (and, indeed, the center of the Mormon intellectual universe), surely demonstrates that they have nothing whatever to say.

harmony wrote:I wonder how the Brethren reacted.

There's no indication of any reaction whatsoever, as far as I can tell. There's no indication, so far as I can see, that they know about it or care.

harmony wrote:If they just kicked it to Daniel and Co, I'm going to be disappointed once again.

An article is published in an academic journal, arguing for its conclusion on the basis of evidence and scholarly analysis. How very disappointing -- shocking, even -- if one or more academics end up critiquing it on the basis of evidence and scholarly analysis. (And, certainly, the thought of replying to the article would never occur to them on their own; they would need to be ordered to do it by their ecclesiastical leaders.) Wouldn't the more appropriate, credible, and convincing response be testimony-bearing by Church leaders who lack training in the relevant mode of scholarly analysis? That's what would win the critics over!
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SatanWasSetUp wrote:I've heard this before. Is it because of satan's influence? I was once told by a TBM, while debating the church with her, that she saw Satan's demons whispering in my ear. Do you think our bad behavior and egregrious incivility is caused by Satan and his minions?

A very interesting question.

As far as the pathology goes, I'm interested in its phenomenology or symptomatology. I don't speculate much about its etiology, though I strongly suspect that human psychology is enough to account for a substantial portion of that.

Good question.
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