Official LDS statement on Christ in America

[_TAK]

I suppose that you did not have this pamplet when you were a mishy?

I was never a mishy.

Bravo ! One of your better non-answers..

[_Daniel Peterson]

If you were asking whether I'm familiar with the pamphlet, then Yes, I am. Did I use it while a missionary? Yes, I believe so.

Does any of that support the consensus here? Not that I can see.

Do I care what you think? Not much.

[_TAK]

If you were asking whether I'm familiar with the pamphlet, then Yes, I am. Did I use it while a missionary? Yes, I believe so.

Does any of that support the consensus here? Not that I can see.

The only consensus I see here is that the Pamphlet represented Mormon teachings at one time.. You don't think that is true?

[_Daniel Peterson]

The only consensus I see here is that the Pamphlet represented Mormon teachings at one time.. You don't think that is true?

It represented pretty much the mainstream view at one time, whether or not I ever used the pamphlet as a missionary.

Does it refute limited geographical models for the Book of Mormon? Not that I can see.

[_Scottie]

The only consensus I see here is that the Pamphlet represented Mormon teachings at one time.. You don't think that is true?

It represented pretty much the mainstream view at one time, whether or not I ever used the pamphlet as a missionary.

Does it refute limited geographical models for the Book of Mormon? Not that I can see.

Is the LGT/HGT in question here?

I thought this was more about an apostle of the Lord making certifiable claims that we now know are false and teaching them as truth.

How can we believe anything an apostle says? How are we to know what is actual truth and what is more of this non-truth-passed-as-fact-because-an-apostle-said-it?

[_Daniel Peterson]

Is the LGT/HGT in question here?

So you agree that this is irrelevant?

Good.

I thought this was more about an apostle of the Lord making certifiable claims that we now know are false and teaching them as truth.

How can we believe anything an apostle says? How are we to know what is actual truth and what is more of this non-truth-passed-as-fact-because-an-apostle-said-it?

Sorry. You'll have to take this up with an inerrantist, which I am not and never have been.

For my general thoughts on the broader topic, see Daniel C. Peterson, “Notes on Historicity and Inerrancy," in Historicity and the Latter-day Saint Scriptures, edited by Paul Y. Hoskisson (Provo: Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 2001), 197-215. I don't believe that it's on line.

[_Scottie]

Is the LGT/HGT in question here?

So you agree that this is irrelevant?

Good.

Yes, I believe it is irrelevant.

If Christ came to the Americas and if the Book of Mormon peoples were isolated, it would still make sense that Jesus would have appeared to the non-BoM peoples in the Americas as well. No damage to the LGT.

[_bcspace]

Not only that, but it was never canonized, it was opinion, he wasn't the prophet, it never passed correlation, blah blah blah.

Now hold on a sec. Was it published by the Church? Is there something of later date published by the Church such as Sorensen's 1984 Ensign articles that say anything different?

[_cinepro]

Not only that, but it was never canonized, it was opinion, he wasn't the prophet, it never passed correlation, blah blah blah.

Now hold on a sec. Was it published by the Church? Is there something of later date published by the Church such as Sorensen's 1984 Ensign articles that say anything different?

Did you mean the article that starts out with this disclaimer?

These articles are not intended to be an expression of official Church teachings, but on the basis of my own research and study, I have thought this new information to be worth consideration.

Did Elder Petersen put such a disclaimer in his pamphlet?

[_TAK]

Not only that, but it was never canonized, it was opinion, he wasn't the prophet, it never passed correlation, blah blah blah.

Now hold on a sec. Was it published by the Church? Is there something of later date published by the Church such as Sorensen's 1984 Ensign articles that say anything different?

the church published it as a missionary tool for over ten years..