Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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Did you mean the article


Yes.

that starts out with this disclaimer?


Yet the Church deigned to publish in an offiicial work a possible framework for an LGT of the Book of Mormon. Hmmmmm....

the church published it as a missionary tool for over ten years..


Likely enough. It takes more than an unofficial copy from lds-mormon.org to prove it, but I do seem to remember something like it. In any case. I don;t see the problem here. All one has to do is apply the Church's own statements on official doctrine and it all falls into place.
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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Scottie wrote:
I thought this was more about an apostle of the Lord making certifiable claims that we now know are false and teaching them as truth.

How can we believe anything an apostle says? How are we to know what is actual truth and what is more of this non-truth-passed-as-fact-because-an-apostle-said-it?


I have no doubt that Apostle Peterson truly believed believed what he was saying at that time. Many things have been said in the past, that were latter discovered not to be true or were just idle speculation. Once we have a more accurate idea, we simply move on from there.

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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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bcspace wrote:All one has to do is apply the Church's own statements on official doctrine and it all falls into place.


Don't you mean "out of place"?
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bcspace wrote:Likely enough. It takes more than an unofficial copy from lds-mormon.org to prove it, but I do seem to remember something like it. In any case. I don;t see the problem here. All one has to do is apply the Church's own statements on official doctrine and it all falls into place.


Both Dr Peterson and myself as missionaries distributed this pamphlet.

LDS definition of doctrine :
“Not every statement made by a Church leader, past or present, necessarily constitutes doctrine. A single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion often represents a personal, though well-considered, opinion, but is not meant to be officially binding for the whole Church. With divine inspiration, the 1. First Presidency (the prophet and his two counselors) and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles (the second-highest governing body of the Church) counsel together to establish doctrine that is consistently proclaimed in official Church publications..”

This is a) not “single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion” and b)was “consistently proclaimed in official Church publications” for over ten years thus: it was doctrine.
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TAK wrote:This is a) not “single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion” and b)was “consistently proclaimed in official Church publications” for over ten years thus: it was doctrine.

What was doctrine?
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
TAK wrote:This is a) not “single statement made by a single leader on a single occasion” and b)was “consistently proclaimed in official Church publications” for over ten years thus: it was doctrine.

What was doctrine?


The contents of the pamphlet .. pay attention.
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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TAK wrote:The contents of the pamphlet .. pay attention.

I'm paying attention.

So you mean to say that absolutely everything in the pamphlet is (or was) Church doctrine? Down to the details?

Rather like inerrant scripture?
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All one has to do is apply the Church's own statements on official doctrine and it all falls into place.

Don't you mean "out of place"?


No. How do you figure?
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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Daniel Peterson wrote:
TAK wrote:The contents of the pamphlet .. pay attention.

I'm paying attention.

So you mean to say that absolutely everything in the pamphlet is (or was) Church doctrine? Down to the details?

Rather like inerrant scripture?

Sure. Why not?

Okay, how about we boil it down to a concept that was doctrine rather than details. Quetzalcoatl, among other Mesoamerican Gods, was Jesus.
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Re: Official LDS statement on Christ in America

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Scottie wrote:Sure. Why not?

Okay, how about we boil it down to a concept that was doctrine rather than details. Quetzalcoatl, among other Mesoamerican Gods, was Jesus.


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