SMPT Call for Papers

[_cinepro]

Boy, this sure makes it sound like The Good Professor has some kind of "insider" knowledge concerning the way this conference operates. I mean, who was it that "leaked" the information about his Ivy-league friend getting the kibbosh? Obviously, it was not the friend him/herself.

The comment that the friend is still "smarting" makes it sound like the friend was the source of the information, and that the information was gleaned directly as a result of a personal invitation to submit a paper.

At least, that was my assumption.

[_Mister Scratch]

Boy, this sure makes it sound like The Good Professor has some kind of "insider" knowledge concerning the way this conference operates. I mean, who was it that "leaked" the information about his Ivy-league friend getting the kibbosh? Obviously, it was not the friend him/herself.

The comment that the friend is still "smarting" makes it sound like the friend was the source of the information, and that the information was gleaned directly as a result of a personal invitation to submit a paper.

At least, that was my assumption.

Huh. Well, that's certainly a possibility. I suppose I am just accustomed to seeing DCP brag about his various big-shot friends and connections that I just assumed that he was doing that again here. But, of course, I could be wrong.

[_Joey]

Joey, as a gesture of entirely unearned goodwill, I located the following after an arduous search on line extending for more than eleven seconds:

http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?v ... 82620a____

This would be a pretty good place to launch your preliminary research as you prepare your paper for SMPT.

This is precisely why I call Peterson on the carpet to specific questuins. You have provided nothing that I have not seen before. And you have provided nothing that addresses the question/issue I have raised/asked. With similar "unearned goodwill" (could you ask your Biz college dean to define that one!!!) Let me tell you that absolutely none of that information you provided addresses anything to do with "WHY" the Mormon church believes such creeds or beliefs are an "abomination". My original request had nothing to do with the "proposed" apostacy. Offered by the Mormon church. But you know that.

You are very consistent in answering questions that were never asked and then asking for moderator protection when asked to be accountable. I am sorry for accusing you of being a liar. Perhaps "deceiver" is a better lable.

I will take this up in a separate thread which, undoubtedly,you will avoid because of lack of protection. Unfortunately my affairs don't allow for your academic free-time. But I will present it.

[_Daniel Peterson]

After dwelling upon the issues within this thread at length, I have observed some things which don't seem to add up.

Mister Scratch could find sordid conspiracies and stunning Mopologist revelations in any given column of a typical suburban telephone book.

After all, why would he invite all of us to participate in this conference, and then proceed to turn around and insult us?

I didn't insult anybody. There are some people here -- California Kid is an obvious example -- who are obviously academically capable. There are others who aren't obviously so, whether for reasons of intellect or temperament or just because they're hiding their deep scholarly selves behind frivolous adopted internet personae.

I just found out on Friday that a good friend of mine, a well-published scholar with an Ivy League Ph.D. in political philosophy, is still smarting from having his proposal for an SMPT presentation rejected two or three years ago. I had been unaware of that when I extended a personal invitation to him to propose something for the May conference.

Boy, this sure makes it sound like The Good Professor has some kind of "insider" knowledge concerning the way this conference operates. I mean, who was it that "leaked" the information about his Ivy-league friend getting the kibbosh? Obviously, it was not the friend him/herself.

It was my friend himself/herself. I sent my friend an e-mail inviting him/her to submit a proposal, and s/he responded that s/he wasn't sure that s/he would, since his/her prior proposal had been rejected and s/he wasn't exactly sure what the SMPT referees wanted. I hadn't been aware of this incident before. It was clear, I thought, that s/he had been somewhat offended.

In any event, I am trying to make sure that my mornings are clear during May.

Claremont is, what?, about an hour away for you?

I believe that a truly groundbreaking and astonishing paper will be delivered at that time.

That's flattering. But I haven't even started on my proposal yet.

[_Mister Scratch]

After dwelling upon the issues within this thread at length, I have observed some things which don't seem to add up.

Mister Scratch could find sordid conspiracies and stunning Mopologist revelations in any given column of a typical suburban telephone book.

Was "sordid" my word? Or are you engaging in yet more distortion?

I didn't insult anybody. There are some people here -- California Kid is an obvious example -- who are obviously academically capable. There are others who aren't obviously so, whether for reasons of intellect or temperament or just because they're hiding their deep scholarly selves behind frivolous adopted internet personae.

California Kid posts on the MADboard. You could have easily informed him there. Thus, it seems that your goals and motives here, on this board, were somewhat different. Who, Dan, were you trying to appeal to here? What were you trying to accomplish?

In any event, I am trying to make sure that my mornings are clear during May.

Claremont is, what?, about an hour away for you?

???? What makes you say that? I don't recall ever having told you where I live. Did someone else tell you?

This is very interesting indeed.

I believe that a truly groundbreaking and astonishing paper will be delivered at that time.

That's flattering. But I haven't even started on my proposal yet.

Did I say I was referring to you?

[_Daniel Peterson]

California Kid posts on the MADboard. You could have easily informed him there. Thus, it seems that your goals and motives here, on this board, were somewhat different. Who, Dan, were you trying to appeal to here? What were you trying to accomplish?

As would be obvious to a non-Scratch, I was letting people here know of the upcoming conference.

There aren't many -- here, or anywhere else -- whose interests and/or training would impel them to propose a paper to a conference on Mormon philosophy and theology, but there might be some. I've also written to several friends and posted the call for papers at several places on the BYU campus. I encourage anybody with the requisite interests and abilities to propose a paper.

That's flattering. But I haven't even started on my proposal yet.

Did I say I was referring to you?

Humor impaired, are you?

[_Mister Scratch]

There aren't many -- here, or anywhere else -- whose interests and/or training would impel them to propose a paper to a conference on Mormon philosophy and theology, but there might be some.

Who? I already pointed out to you that CK posts on MAD, where, presumably, you already posted this notice. Who else here were you trying to reach? You listed several here (myself included) who you don't count amongst the "enlightened" ones. Feel free to let me know who, besides CK, you had intended to reach with your OP. I can't wait to hear.

Humor impaired, are you?

No... Not at all. I think you have a pretty good sense how much opportunity I get to laugh.

Anyways, I notice that you avoided addressing this rather important point:

Claremont is, what?, about an hour away for you?

???? What makes you say that? I don't recall ever having told you where I live. Did someone else tell you?

I don't seem to remember telling you where I live. (Why would you think I live "an hour away" from Claremont?) Are you just guessing? Or did somebody else tell you where I live? Please feel free to enlighten me.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Who? I already pointed out to you that CK posts on MAD, where, presumably, you already posted this notice. Who else here were you trying to reach? You listed several here (myself included) who you don't count amongst the "enlightened" ones. Feel free to let me know who, besides CK, you had intended to reach with your OP. I can't wait to hear.

Poor fellow. You're going to have to.

I figure they'll select themselves by submitting a proposal or, at least, seriously considering the possibility. People whose interests and background don't incline them that way won't. And those who submit a gossipy proposal to attack me, or whatever, will probably find their proposals rejected, because they probably won't meet academic standards.

[_Gadianton]

Is it being suggested that my proposal is going to be a gossipy one about professor Peterson? There will be no mention of him or implications about him in my proposal. There will be, however, chastisement of the apologists in general. But given what I know about DCP, this much needed rebuking will be directed far more at other apologists then him, due as I said, to the subject matter.

I look forward to the delivery, and I hope Mister Scratch will be able to make it, to support me.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Is it being suggested that my proposal is going to be a gossipy one about professor Peterson? There will be no mention of him or implications about him in my proposal. There will be, however, chastisement of the apologists in general. But given what I know about DCP, this much needed rebuking will be directed far more at other apologists then him, due as I said, to the subject matter.

I'll be candid with you and say that, from what you describe, your paper may not make it. We're talking about the annual meeting of a society devoted to philosophy and theology, after all, in which, while the thought of Kant and Berdyaev and Plantinga and folks like that is apropos, stories about their lives or their classroom manner or their personalities are, on the whole, probably not.

But good luck. (I may or may not be on the selection committee; I've successfully avoided that duty in the past.)

I look forward to the delivery, and I hope Mister Scratch will be able to make it, to support me.

Oh, I'm absolutely sure he will. And I rather expect that Kishkumen Scratch will be there as well -- if, indeed, not Rollo Tomasi Scratch.

Provided your paper is accepted.