A Mopologetic Conference Center?

[_Daniel Peterson]

Where I live, the ward building is called, strangely enough, the ward building. Or the church house. The chapel is the place where the pews, the stand, and the organ are kept inside the church house, and is... strangely enough... called the chapel. We don't call our ward building a chapel. Obviously this is one more way we are different from those who live in Utah.

I wonder if you're right. Perhaps a linguistic survey of the area would be helpful.

At any rate, my linguistic habits weren't formed in Utah, but in California.

I believe it covers paintings, period.

Thank you. That was my point.

We have a painting of Christ in our chapel, along with the pews, the organ, and the sacrament trays. Do you have a similiar picture?

We do not. Of course, both of the buildings with which I'm connected are extremely new.

How old is yours?

Or are you obedient to every word that comes out of SLC?

I had nothing to do with the design or decoration of either of the buildings with which I have my primary Church ties. But I also don't care about this alleged issue, and I've never heard of the decree to which you refer.

To answer your question, though, I am a believing Latter-day Saint, and I do try to stay in harmony with the leaders of my church.

[_harmony]

I wonder if you're right. Perhaps a linguistic survey of the area would be helpful.

At any rate, my linguistic habits weren't formed in Utah, but in California.

So you haven't picked up any Utah-isms? Or maybe you just haven't lived there long enough.

We have a painting of Christ in our chapel, along with the pews, the organ, and the sacrament trays. Do you have a similiar picture?

We do not. Of course, both of the buildings with which I'm connected are extremely new.

How old is yours?

Dedicated in 1964. That's when they hung the picture.

To answer your question, though, I am a believing Latter-day Saint, and I do try to stay in harmony with the leaders of my church.

Me, too.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Since I enjoy linguistics and lexicography, I've done a quick little preliminary search.

According to the official Church website, chapel denotes "the room in a church building where the main worship service is held," but, additionally, chapel "is sometimes used to refer to the entire building."

http://www.Mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/bas ... ion/chapel

And it seems that it's not only Utah Mormons who sometimes use the term in that second sense:

http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/11/pro ... ttle_mormo

http://www.affirmation.org/voices/gay_d ... roup.shtml

http://www.nine-moons.com/2008/06/27/ca ... r-chapels/

And, umm,

http://www.orato.com/lifestyles/2009/01 ... rmon-gulag

And then there's this, from the New York Times:

June 11, 2007
Romney’s Run Has Mormons Wary of Scrutiny
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
LOGAN, Utah — In this wide valley where the twin spires of the Mormon temple dominate the landscape
and some neighborhoods have a Mormon chapel every few blocks, Mitt Romney’s bid for president is both a
proud sign of progress and a cause of trepidation.

Many more such examples, I'm sure, are easily available.

[_ludwigm]

Since I enjoy linguistics and lexicography ...

I enjoy it too.

Do You know, how many stupid, weird, ambiguous and ununderstandable words appear in the hungarian translations of the mormonspeaks and ~writs? Unfortunately, the average education level in the h. membership is definitely lower than the national average, so they are not aware of this. It is distressing to hear the parroting of the senseless, unhungarian sentences from the pulpit.

And it is not only about the words "ward", "chapel" etc.

by the way.
1. The word You means all readers of my comment, not only DCP.
2. Please don't answer "CFR" about my opinion about the educational level. I was teacher in the army 30+ years, I think I did estimate it correctly.
3. I know one ward building (maybe there are more than one) where in the chapel room there are stripes painted on the floor for basketball. No sane hungarian would call it chapel.
4. There are no paintings in the chapel room. OK, this has come from the protestant roots. But why there are two or three clocks? And why do they sooOO frequently watched from the pews and from the seats of the leadership?

[_Tom]

The artwork policy in the CHI (2006) states:

"Artwork in Church buildings should be of high quality and depict subjects that are appropriate in a house of worship. It should also be properly framed. Church-approved pictures can be obtained through the facilities management group or from Church Distribution Services.

Pictures and other artwork may be placed in appropriate locations in the meetinghouse. However, they may not be placed in the chapel or near the baptismal font. Statues, murals, or mosaics are not authorized. This policy does not apply to works of art that have been on display for many years in the chapels of existing meetinghouses.

If artwork of poor quality is offered, local leaders should tactfully decline accepting it for display in meetinghouses" (181-82).

[_Daniel Peterson]

The artwork policy in the CHI (2006) states:

"Artwork in Church buildings should be of high quality and depict subjects that are appropriate in a house of worship. It should also be properly framed. Church-approved pictures can be obtained through the facilities management group or from Church Distribution Services.

Pictures and other artwork may be placed in appropriate locations in the meetinghouse. However, they may not be placed in the chapel or near the baptismal font. Statues, murals, or mosaics are not authorized. This policy does not apply to works of art that have been on display for many years in the chapels of existing meetinghouses.

If artwork of poor quality is offered, local leaders should tactfully decline accepting it for display in meetinghouses" (181-82).

Thanks. I was planning to look the matter up in the Handbook, but you've saved me the time.

This hasn't been a burning issue -- nor an issue of any kind -- anywhere that I've ever been.

I notice that the policy accounts both for the absence of paintings from recently-built chapels and also for the continued presence of such art in harmony's nearly half-century-old chapel. That may substantially lessen the thrill of disobedience to the Brethren, but it makes sense (and accords with my hint about the age of her building, above).

[_Gadianton]

Thanks for the information tom. i didn't know this had actually been tried in the past.