Publications on Mormon History

[_Yoda]

The references that describe it as a marriage.

Do you have a favorite, or anything specific? This is a genuine question. I would really like to read something that you recommend.

[Guest]

The references that describe it as a marriage.

Do you have a favorite, or anything specific? This is a genuine question. I would really like to read something that you recommend.

It's not a particular focus or interest of mine, and I don't have anything ready to hand.

The review that I finished editing (and turned over to our publication people) yesterday cites the relevant materials, and evaluates them to some degree. You might find it interesting when it finally appears. (That's going to be minimally four weeks off, since we won't even take the issue to press until next Friday, at the earliest. Though I'm toying with the idea of putting this particular review up on line early, because I think it so good and so important.)




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[_Ray A]

Though I'm toying with the idea of putting this particular review up on line early, because I think it so good and so important.)

In which case I may have to un-bore myself and read it.

[_Yoda]

It's not a particular focus or interest of mine, and I don't have anything ready to hand.

The review that I finished editing (and turned over to our publication people) yesterday cites the relevant materials, and evaluates them to some degree. You might find it interesting when it finally appears. (That's going to be minimally four weeks off, since we won't even take the issue to press until next Friday, at the earliest. Though I'm toying with the idea of putting this particular review up on line early, because I think it so good and so important.)

In that case, please post when it is available online.

Also, if you have a moment, and wouldn't mind, would you PM me the references listed in the review referring to Joseph and Fanny?

Thanks!

[_Daniel Peterson]

Also, if you have a moment, and wouldn't mind, would you PM me the references listed in the review referring to Joseph and Fanny?

I only had the review in hard copy, and have now passed it on for final pre-press editing.

I don't have them at my fingertips.

Sorry.

But I do think you'll find the overall review interesting. It surprised even me, and I learned some things that lead me to take less seriously certain historical issues that I had imagined to have more merit than they evidently do.

[_TAK]

DCP

This implicit complain eludes me completely. Massacre at Mountain Meadows is largely devoted to "the genesis of the conflict," and it makes absolutely no secret of the central role of those Cedar City leaders.

And where did I say that it was a secret?
That’s the problem with the book - it was the leaders that gave orders that the Fancher train was to be attacked and not as the authors attempted to portray; a mob action. Its was a military action

[_Daniel Peterson]

That’s the problem with the book - it was the leaders that gave orders that the Fancher train was to be attacked and not as the authors attempted to portray; a mob action. Its was a military action

I've read the book twice.

I didn't get even the slightest hint from it of an attempt to portray the massacre as a mob action. I thought the authors were extremely clear in depicting it as a military action ordered by the leaders in Cedar City.

[Maureen]

I've read the book twice.
I didn't get even the slightest hint from it of an attempt to portray the massacre as a mob action. I thought the authors were extremely clear in depicting it as a military action ordered by the leaders in Cedar City.

Twice you say? Not “the slightest hint from it of an attempt to portray the massacre as a mob action” ?

Nonsense.

The Author’s Preface sets the tone for the book as to why good people do bad things with the following: “In caring out the Mountain Meadows Massacre, they followed a familiar step-by-step pattern used by vigilantes elsewhere.” On Page 137, “By the First week in September, the typical components for group violence existed in Cedar City, including the demonizing of opponents, concentration of authority and a lack of clear orders from headquarters”

Throughout the book the authors twist the motives of the men in Southern Utah to explain why they murdered these people. To say that they had no “clear orders from headquarters” is false. Geo.A Smith was just there. The evidence tends to show that Haight was ordered by Smith to attack emigrants coming through the area. At first using Indians and when that failed the militia. What you don’t learn from the authors is that this action was not unique. Attacks on emigrants were carried out in both southern and northen Utah and which was consistent with Brigham Young’s orders.

[_Daniel Peterson]

The lack of clear orders from headquarters refers to Salt Lake City, not to Cedar City.

On the whole, it seems that you and I have read completely different books.

And I trust my own reading over yours.

[_Jason Bourne]

(That's going to be minimally four weeks off, since we won't even take the issue to press until next Friday, at the earliest. Though I'm toying with the idea of putting this particular review up on line early, because I think it so good and so important.)

Please let us know when it is ready. I would very much like to read it.

Thanks