bcspace wrote:Well done! Now go and get more of your hypocritical inactive friends to do the same so I don't have to home teach them.
None of my friends are LDS (active or inactive). I had lots of fake friends when I was an investigator, however they all forgot about me once I was baptized and no longer the ward celebrity.
I was able to talk 2 of my real friends out of joining the church, as well as my brother and his family...so that should count for something, right?
fook
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Ben Franklin
None of my friends are LDS (active or inactive). I had lots of fake friends when I was an investigator, however they all forgot about me once I was baptized and no longer the ward celebrity.
Comments like this really bug me. Sure we should all do better friend shipping and fellow shipping each other. But you are responible for your own involvement as well. How many people did you try to engage socially? How many did you invite over to your house or out to dinner?
If you want to leave I am fine with it. But don't whine about stuff like this.
None of my friends are LDS (active or inactive). I had lots of fake friends when I was an investigator, however they all forgot about me once I was baptized and no longer the ward celebrity.
Comments like this really bug me. Sure we should all do better friend shipping and fellow shipping each other. But you are responible for your own involvement as well. How many people did you try to engage socially? How many did you invite over to your house or out to dinner?
If you want to leave I am fine with it. But don't whine about stuff like this.
I would have to disagree and agree with Phouchg. I find that the intense fellowshipping and kindness is reserved for those who are prospective Mormons. I have broken my back for the last 6 years to keep in touch and stay friends with those who were my best friends during my investigation/fellowshipping time, but they never seem to find the time to return calls or visit with me. It really makes me question their sincerity. I also know because I've (and I admit it wasn't very compassionate of me) been on the other side and have engaged those who were on the edge of not being Mormon with more attention. Whatever way we slice it, people gravitate to where they feel accepted and loved and needed. Why else would church leaders stress fellowshipping of converts and visitors and giving new members callings and responsibilities so early?
Jason, have you ever been a convert to the LDS church? Maybe you just can't understand what it is like--no more than I could understand the complexities of what it's like to be a lifelong member. But you are right, whining and complaining never does much good--especially when lack of friendliness is unintentional. But you do sacrifice a lot to become Mormon and develop very strong feelings to your new friends in the church, and when they don't seem as interested after you're in the church, it hurts to feel friendless in a new world your family and whole life is not a part of.
Phouchg wrote:I guess GBH's advice about the need to friendship and nourish new members just doesn't matter.
We got 'em dunked, we have them on the rolls, our budget allowance $$$ goes up, and all is well in Zion.
Sure, this is good advice.
But if you aren't trying to make friends yourself, does the blame lie solely on the members??
Does any of this matter? How nice the members are doesn't make the Church any more or less true. It might make it harder to quit. It also might make it more enjoyable which would cause members to question less. But that doesn't make it any more or less true.
bcspace wrote:Well done! Now go and get more of your hypocritical inactive friends to do the same so I don't have to home teach them.
That's a nice, charitable, Christ-like attitude.
bcspace wrote:Not any less than the typical "exit" story.
But we should expect such from the apostate, right? After all, they are walking away from the true Church of Christ, away from communion with the saints, away from companionship with the Holy Spirit (and the accompanying fruits of love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance).
What's your excuse?
"Christian anti-Mormons are no different than that wonderful old man down the street who turns out to be a child molester." - Obiwan, nutjob Mormon apologist - Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:25 pm