The Wisdom & Faith of Lehi Cranston

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Re: The Wisdom & Faith of Lehi Cranston

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Daniel Peterson wrote:1) While I genuinely appreciate harmony's attempt to distance Current Me from Former Me, I don't really think I've changed much.

Now DCP, ain't this the TRUTH!
You're stuck, I am glad you're admitting it.
You're stuck at the past, with your Book of Mormon, Quran, Bible, your life can be best described as repetitious "Groundhog Days", (Remember that movie?).
We humans change daily, as we get older (like me) the cells of the body don't renew as quickly, but the BRAIN, has so much room to absorb.
Did you have an I phone, Fantastic Macs? Plasma TV's, Mars Rovers half dozen years ago?
You put yourself in a position of stagnation. The Institution you believe in is drowning in mediocrity.
There's nothing new, as you admit....
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solomarineris wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:1) While I genuinely appreciate harmony's attempt to distance Current Me from Former Me, I don't really think I've changed much.

Now DCP, ain't this the TRUTH!
You're stuck, I am glad you're admitting it.
You're stuck at the past, with your Book of Mormon, Quran, Bible, your life can be best described as repetitious "Groundhog Days", (Remember that movie?).
We humans change daily, as we get older (like me) the cells of the body don't renew as quickly, but the BRAIN, has so much room to absorb.
Did you have an I phone, Fantastic Macs? Plasma TV's, Mars Rovers half dozen years ago?
You put yourself in a position of stagnation. The Institution you believe in is drowning in mediocrity.
There's nothing new, as you admit....


The problem with admitting personal improvement is that first one must acknowledge that one could improve...
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Those are harsh and hurtful accusations Droopy, I hope you fill bigger now that you've made them.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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harmony wrote:The problem with admitting personal improvement is that first one must acknowledge that one could improve...


I have to smile to this...
Last Friday my office Manager walked in "Solo, you are such an ass sometimes", she doesn't use profanity often, when she uses, I don't react, I listen. She didn't like the way I handled a particular situation in the Clinic.
We learn from the lessons or they will be repeated until we learn.
Gospel is a great example; the whole stupid doctrine has all the answers you need.
Manuals change yearly to emphasize the same ideology with different spins.
DCP is right in saying he changed little, there is no reason for him to change, he already knows
"The Truth", "Fullness of the Gosple".
On the other hand I know next to nothing; no matter how hard I try to learn about Astronomy, how many field trips I take to learn Geology or Science, I know very little.
And about God & Jesus I know nothing, I haven't seen nothing, heard nothing.
My mortal senses do not let me experience anything out of ordianary. My cognitive faculties let me down constantly seeing this extraordinary light.
I don't know much.
I am willing to admit.
"As I say, it never ceases to amaze me how gullible some of our Church members are"
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solomarineris wrote:
harmony wrote:The problem with admitting personal improvement is that first one must acknowledge that one could improve...


I have to smile to this...
Last Friday my office Manager walked in "Solo, you are such an ass sometimes", she doesn't use profanity often, when she uses, I don't react, I listen. She didn't like the way I handled a particular situation in the Clinic.
We learn from the lessons or they will be repeated until we learn.
Gospel is a great example; the whole stupid doctrine has all the answers you need.
Manuals change yearly to emphasize the same ideology with different spins.
DCP is right in saying he changed little, there is no reason for him to change, he already knows
"The Truth", "Fullness of the Gosple".
On the other hand I know next to nothing; no matter how hard I try to learn about Astronomy, how many field trips I take to learn Geology or Science, I know very little.
And about God & Jesus I know nothing, I haven't seen nothing, heard nothing.
My mortal senses do not let me experience anything out of ordianary. My cognitive faculties let me down constantly seeing this extraordinary light.
I don't know much.
I am willing to admit.


Even the most learned among us (us being the world-wide us) can improve. But first, one must acknowledge that one has room for improvement. Once a person believes they know it all, their growth not only stops; it regresses.

Daniel may not see the change in himself that others see. That is sad. One should celebrate one's improvements, no matter how small. He may not believe he's changed; that is myopic. To allow oneself to stagnate is to allow oneself to worsen. In this case, we aren't talking about how Daniel is perceived by his friends; we're talking about how he is perceived by those who he does not count as friends. Perhaps he has always been congenial and affable with his friends. His mellowing towards those he does not view as his friends may simply be a result of a newly acquired disinterest. Neutrality looks like an improvement, when concentrated personal attack was once the norm.

There is never stagnation. That which does not improve regresses. Those who will not learn are left behind as knowledge progresses.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Thanks for your comments, harmony.

Coming from someone so familiar with me personally and so intimately acquainted with my publications over the years, they mean a lot.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:Thanks for your comments, harmony.

Coming from someone so familiar with me personally and so intimately acquainted with my publications over the years, they mean a lot.


I only speak from my own experience with you, from the past through the present. No intimacy or familiarity implied, of course.
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for what it's worth, I have only been in this little apologetic circle for about three years now. In those three years, I have noticed a change to a nicer, gentler Dr Peterson.
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I've never been the monster of cruelty that some imagine me to have been and that Scratchists devoutly believe me still to be.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:I've never been the monster of cruelty that some imagine me to have been and that Scratchists devoutly believe me still to be.

Actually, to some, you have been.

Perhaps you don't see it, but others do. Maybe it's time for some self reflection? Perhaps you haven't been as kind as you think you have?
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