Does Uncle Dale Receive Special Protection Here?

[_Ray A]

I recommend any one read the Pearl Curran thread and judge for themselves.

I have never advocated the compelete NONSENSE that you do in supporting any kind of "biblical flood". Limited or worldwide. You must have a penchant for MYTH. So don't lecture me about what "real scientists" are investigating. You can be sure they aren't investigating whether a man can feed five thousand people with five fishes

On this thread you posted that marg was assigned to moderate the pinned thread.

False.

You further posted only Brent's posts to marg and failed to post her responses to him.

Incomplete information or shall we say, biased reporting?

Any questions?

I have given you Brent's replies. Put your glasses on!

[_Jersey Girl]

I recommend any one read the Pearl Curran thread and judge for themselves.

I have never advocated the compelete NONSENSE that you do in supporting any kind of "biblical flood". Limited or worldwide. You must have a penchant for MYTH. So don't lecture me about what "real scientists" are investigating. You can be sure they aren't investigating whether a man can feed five thousand people with five fishes

On this thread you posted that marg was assigned to moderate the pinned thread.

False.

You further posted only Brent's posts to marg and failed to post her responses to him.

Incomplete information or shall we say, biased reporting?

Any questions?

I have given you Brent's replies. Put your glasses on!

What on earth are you talking about, Ray? I stated that you gave Brent's comments and failed to supply marg's response to him.

[_Yoda]

Hi liz3564,

Since I just barely posted my messages, your castigation of Ray is a tad premature, if not uncharitable.

That said, marg has clearly conceded that her moderation of the thread in question is overtly biased—period.

Cheers,

</brent>

Hi Brent--

Glad that you are posting with us again.

I don't think that I have been uncharitable toward Ray. Frankly, I think I have been more than patient with him.

I like Ray, and have had a good Internet relationship with him over the several years I have known him in the posting arena. I think he knows that.

What I'm trying to understand is what he wants to happen at this point.

The ad hom situation that he pointed out was corrected.

His concern about you posting seems to have resolved itself as well.

What more needs to happen on the thread that has not already been resolved?
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[_Ray A]

What on earth are you talking about, Ray? I stated that you gave Brent's comments and failed to supply marg's response to him.

I did not fail to give marg's replies. She told Brent that UD is protected for certain reasons.

When did "protection" ever become an issue with MDB?

[_Ray A]

What I'm trying to understand is what he wants to happen at this point.

I want marg out of the Authorship thread as a moderator, because of her bias. She's been shown to be incompetent and biased to an unacceptable degree.

[_Daniel Peterson]

I'd love to see his assessment of the Jockers study. Dismissing it out of hand is both cowardly and beneath him. That's something I'd expect of LDS apologists, not Brent.

And yet, as is their custom, that's not what the LDS apologists have done, and that's not what the LDS apologists are going to do.

It's tough, I suppose, that they seldom actually live down to your expectations. Perhaps you need to really concentrate, make your hands into fists, and expect harder. Hopping on one foot sometimes helps, too.

[_Brent Metcalfe]

Hi liz3564,

You ask, "What more needs to happen on the thread that has not already been resolved?"

Moderator marg's censorship of posts that she deems antagonistic to Dale's speculations needs to stop. I've rarely seen anything quite like this on a Mormon-related forum. Keep in mind, I've been in the cyber trenches—I was the first ex-Mormon moderator of the now defunct ZLMB.

Best wishes,

</brent>


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—Raymond E. Brown

[_Yoda]

What I'm trying to understand is what he wants to happen at this point.

I want marg out of the Authorship thread as a moderator, because of her bias. She's been shown to be incompetent and biased to an unacceptable degree.

Everyone has biases about issues here, Ray. Should I be banned from moderating a pro-polygamy thread because I'm against it?

I disagree that she has been incompetent simply because she missed those two infractions on page 45 that you reported. In a 40+ page thread with massive amounts of lengthy responses, this could happen to anyone. That's why we have the report feature...so that posters who notice things that Mods don't, catch them and report them.

[_Yoda]

Moderator marg's censorship of posts that she deems antagonistic to Dale's speculations needs to stop. I've rarely seen anything quite like this on a Mormon-related forum. Keep in mind, I've been in the cyber trenches—I was the first ex-Mormon moderator of the now defunct ZLMB.

Moderating is definitely a balancing act. We do the best we can.

Were the posts censored, or simply moved? As I explained to Ray, the Off Topic Book of Mormon Authorship Thread was not created as a form of punishment. It was created to provide a thread where offshoot topic discussion could continue.

Also, I believe that Marg stated on that thread, after she moved that series of posts, that if anyone felt that their post was moved in error, and was, indeed, on topic, they were more than welcome to re-post their comments on the original thread.

[_Brent Metcalfe]

Hi liz3564,

You ask:

Were the posts censored, or simply moved? As I explained to Ray, the Off Topic Book of Mormon Authorship Thread was not created as a form of punishment. It was created to provide a thread where offshoot topic discussion could continue.

Moving some posts while retaining others that are even more off topic (just take a look the thread!) is censorship—it is an effort to keep a given party line on a thread that seeks to protect a given participant. In my judgment, this is inexcusable.

Also, I believe that Marg stated on that thread, after she moved that series of posts, that if anyone felt that their post was moved in error, and was, indeed, on topic, they were more than welcome to re-post their comments on the original thread.

There aren't enough hours in the day for such recourse, liz3564—especially when a moderator is so brazen about her bias.

My best,

</brent>


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(© 2009 Brent Lee Metcalfe. All rights reserved.)
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The thesis of inspiration may not be invoked to guarantee historicity, for a divinely inspired story is not necessarily history.
—Raymond E. Brown