In defense of the LDS Church

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_John Larsen
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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The Nehor wrote:
John Larsen wrote:
Bull. You just made that up.


No, I didn't. Unless you buy into the idea that monogamy allows three-ways. The closed gay monogamous relationship is the exception, not the rule. Are you close enough friends with any gay people to know anything about the lifestyle that has grown up around it? I am.

An example:

http://blogs.psychologytoday.com/blog/g ... ever-after

Monogamy doesn't allow "three-ways" but heterosexuality certainly does. Once again, you have not linked this behavior to homosexuality any more than to heterosexuality.

So a monogamous homosexual relationship would have no problem with your definition.
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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John Larsen wrote:All of these things are available to the heterosexual world also. You have not made any case linking them to homosexuality.


Yes, they're available. However, they are nowhere near as common. Read up on it and find out.
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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John Larsen wrote:Monogamy doesn't allow "three-ways" but heterosexuality certainly does. Once again, you have not linked this behavior to homosexuality any more than to heterosexuality.

So a monogamous homosexual relationship would have no problem with your definition.


Yet those are so very rare. Do the research. Compare how many heterosexual relationships have an agreement to allow sexual activity with outsiders to how many homosexual relationships do. Read up on it.
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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EAllusion is a leftist masquerading as a libertarian masquerading as a value relativist masquerading as a Utilitarian pretending to be a serious social critic.

We get all kinds here.
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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moksha wrote:
Scottie wrote: Can you really teach someone to be TOO moral??


I think so. Just remember back to last year when one or two of the posters said incredibly disparaging things about homosexuals.

:sad:


You have a weird idea of what morality entails.[/quote]


Yes, the consensus in this forum seems to be that one can be too moral, too ethical, and too good. It also seems to be the consensus that, if one is rather moral, ethical, or good, it is wrong to attempt to persuade others to follow the same path and wrong to critique the behavior of others according to those standards as immoral, unethical, or not-good (even if it, for all intents and purposes, patently is).

Such are the signs of the times...
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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moksha wrote:
Scottie wrote: Can you really teach someone to be TOO moral??


I think so. Just remember back to last year when one or two of the posters said incredibly disparaging things about homosexuals.

:sad:




You have a weird idea of what morality entails.



Yes, the consensus in this forum seems to be that one can be too moral, too ethical, and too good. It also seems to be the consensus that, if one is rather moral, ethical, or good, it is wrong to attempt to persuade others to follow the same path and wrong to critique the behavior of others according to those standards as immoral, unethical, or not-good (even if it, for all intents and purposes, patently is).

Such are the signs of the times...
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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You have a weird idea of what morality entails.



Yes, the consensus in this forum seems to be that one can be too moral, too ethical, and too good. It also seems to be the consensus that, if one is rather moral, ethical, or good, it is wrong to attempt to persuade others to follow the same path and wrong to critique the behavior of others according to those standards as immoral, unethical, or not-good (even if it, for all intents and purposes, patently is.

Such are the signs of the times...
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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You have a weird idea of what morality entails.



Yes, the consensus in this forum seems to be that one can be too moral, too ethical, and too good. It also seems to be the consensus that, if one is rather moral, ethical, or good, it is wrong to attempt to persuade others to follow the same path and wrong to critique the behavior of others according to those standards as immoral, unethical, or not-good (even if, for all intents and purposes, it quite patently is).

Such are the signs of the times...
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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Homosexuality is not inherently immoral.




Yes, it is.
Nothing is going to startle us more when we pass through the veil to the other side than to realize how well we know our Father [in Heaven] and how familiar his face is to us

- President Ezra Taft Benson


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Re: In defense of the LDS Church

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Droopy wrote:
Homosexuality is not inherently immoral.




Yes, it is.

CFR. Because a voice inside your head told you so? That's not going to cut it, bub.
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