The Sons of Helaman - is this a sick joke?

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The Nehor wrote:I put masturbation in the same pile with not attending a fireside.


And if you masturbated at the fireside would that be a wash?
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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Inconceivable wrote:How does a Mormon young adult transition in his (or her) mind from total abstinence to a healthy sexual relationship the night following their marriage?

What is a clean sexual thought before marriage? Are there any?

Then, what is a clean sexual thought after marriage?


I think that Bryan's quote in my sigline sums up what I was taught about this issue.
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Pokatator wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:How does a Mormon young adult transition in his (or her) mind from total abstinence to a healthy sexual relationship the night following their marriage?

What is a clean sexual thought before marriage? Are there any?

Then, what is a clean sexual thought after marriage?


I think that Bryan's quote in my sigline sums up what I was taught about this issue.


Yeah, the old men don't say much about the transitional stage from absolutely no sexual thoughts and actions to sexual thoughts and actions bridalled by Smith's holy ghost, do they?
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Pokatator wrote:
Inconceivable wrote:How does a Mormon young adult transition in his (or her) mind from total abstinence to a healthy sexual relationship the night following their marriage?

What is a clean sexual thought before marriage? Are there any?

Then, what is a clean sexual thought after marriage?


I think that Bryan's quote in my sigline sums up what I was taught about this issue.


That sig is classic! Love it! :lol:
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Crickey, these sons of helaman are touting NLP, of all things, as some sort of psychotherapy.

Seriously. if you know anyone getting sucked into this tell them to turn around, run, and don't look back.
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Inconceivable wrote:Nehor,

In Mormonism, your little factory doors are to remain shut until your partnership in marriage. There are no silent partners.

In Mormonism, masterbation is a sin that must be confessed to the bishop - always. You cannot receive a valid temple recommend or qualify for a mission if your factory is open for business (as a single Mormon). Silent partners after marriage are forbidden and require confession to the bishop as well.

You might ask your bishop to confirm the doctrine if you're not too concerned about being honest with his predictable followup questions.


In a Bishopric meeting a few years back where we discussed the problems facing the ward the Bishop said the opposite.
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The Nehor wrote:In a Bishopric meeting a few years back where we discussed the problems facing the ward ...


It is good to know that we can rely on the Restored Priesthood to keep us focused on what really matters, like the degree to which masturbation by married people is a matter of concern to the alleged creator of the universe. Without this clear guidance from Latter-Day revelation I would just not know what to do for the best.

And it is good to be quite clear about piercings too of course.
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Chap wrote:
The Nehor wrote:In a Bishopric meeting a few years back where we discussed the problems facing the ward ...


It is good to know that we can rely on the Restored Priesthood to keep us focused on what really matters, like the degree to which masturbation by married people is a matter of concern to the alleged creator of the universe. Without this clear guidance from Latter-Day revelation I would just not know what to do for the best.

And it is good to be quite clear about piercings too of course.


YSA ward, the Secretary brought it up as a joke and the Bishop said that not only is it not needed to be confessed but that he didn't want it to be confessed.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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Nehor: I apologize for my mean-spirited comments. Sometimes I take things too seriously. I'm working on that.

Sorry,

Jared
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Nehor wrote:YSA ward, the Secretary brought it up as a joke and the Bishop said that not only is it not needed to be confessed but that he didn't want it to be confessed.


This is progress! I'm glad to hear it.

Nehor wrote:As a graduate of this program I can say it works.


Nehor, were you serious about this? Did you really participate in this Sons of Helaman program, or were you joking?

If you did participate, can you tell us a little bit about what the meetings were like, and what was discussed so there is a fair representation of the program?
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