Prudes, nudes, art & embarassment?

[_harmony]

Surely you jest, lil penguin! Maybe we should take off the fig leaf and see if BYU would censor you.

It's a maple leaf.

Maybe the lil penguin is Canadian?

[_bcspace]

One Bishop will excommunicate you for photographing nudes. The next Bishop photographs them himself and has no problem with it.

I doubt you know all the details of each case. However, I would agree that two different bishops and high councils could interpret the same case differently. Perhaps it's a good thing after all that it takes quite a lot to get excommunicated.

Personally, I'd sooner ex someone for voting democrat than for doing tasteful nude art.

Not all religious groups believe the nude figure to be offensive or embarassing. Why do LDS folk generally feel this way?

I don't feel it to be offensive or embarrassing.

[_Rollo Tomasi]

Another point. In a disciplinary council at the stake level the HC sits in, can offer discussion, suggestion, opinions, etc. But it it is the SP that makes the decision not the HC members. It only takes one person at the stake level to excommunicate.

Interesting points. For some reason I thought every High Councilor and SP member had a say.

They do have a "say," but no veto power over the SP. From p. 114 of the 2006 CHI (emphasis mine):

After hearing any additional comments from the high council, the stake presidency withdraws from the council room to confer in private. After consultation and prayer, the stake president makes the decision and invites his counselors to sustain it.

The stake presidency then returns and announces the decision to the high council. The stake president asks the high councilors as a group to sustain his decision. The high council cannot veto the decision; it is binding even if it is not sustained unanimously. However, if one or more high councilors object to the decision, the stake president should make every effort to resolve the concerns and achieve unanimity. He may recall witnesses for further questioning. If necessary, the disciplinary council may again review the evidence, but not in the presence of the member.

I note that this doesn't address the situation where a stake presidency counselor (not the high council) objects to the decision (it only says the stake president invites his counselors to sustain the decision), but I would assume a counselor has no veto power, either. So, Jason is correct: in the end, one guy (the stake president) decides whether a member is to be ex'ed, regardless of what his counselors or the high council think.

[_Dr. Shades]

I know from close friends who are artists that they look at nudes a bit differently than I do. Through them I have met some LDS members who photograph, paint and sculpt nudes. One is currently a Bishop and photographs nudes. One is a noted photographer who was described as 'one of the top figurative photographers in the world', featured in many art magazines but who, since taking a teaching position at BYU doesn't (at least openly) photograph nudes any longer.

Out of curiousity, how do these guys talk girls into posing nude for them without getting slapped in the face?

I'd love to learn their secret.

[_Amaterasu]

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Why yet another new screen name, or moniker if you will??