The Maddest of MAD

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_Daniel Peterson
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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Yong Xi wrote:Paris and Britney are not only wealthy, but famous as well. In fact, sadly (or not), these two are more well known than all the Mormon prophets/apostles/scholars combined.

Indeed. If I regarded either wealth or fame as a reliable indicator of merit, that would disturb me.
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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It's the best possible defense -- direct contradiction -- against the claim that I've successfully called for the banning of "countless" people from the board formerly known as FAIR.


I've read the thread 3 times looking for someone to have made this claim. No one has. I see a claim that you've "snitched" on people, presumably referring to your bringing to attention your suspicions about poster identities, leading to mod action against them. I also see a claim that the mods at FAIR(ish) are slavishly obedient to your feelings about posters and react against those you are reacting negatively to, which in addition to seeming to be true enough, is quite distinct from you explicitly calling for people's bannings.

Incidentally, though, I do think it's a better board -- with a better balance between believers and critics, and with more substantive conversations -- than this one.

Odd that you would think that given that you have compared similar moderator policies on other boards to the Nazis. Heck, such Nazi comparisons on MADB can get you banned. Well, not you; they'd have a good chuckle about it with you. You know what I mean. The only difference on this front I see is that one board's Orwellian tactics ran against your side while the other favors it.

... Oh. I see. It is indeed an excellent board, isn't it?
_Daniel Peterson
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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EAllusion wrote:
It's the best possible defense -- direct contradiction -- against the claim that I've successfully called for the banning of "countless" people from the board formerly known as FAIR.

I've read the thread 3 times looking for someone to have made this claim. No one has.

The claim has been made innumerable times. I don't have only this thread in view.

EAllusion wrote:I see a claim that you've "snitched" on people, presumably referring to your bringing to attention your suspicions about poster identities, leading to mod action against them.

Here's what solomarineris said:

I did last quite a while, until DCP blew my cover identifying me (correctly I might add) as
heretic, or troll. As many others, who kicked out I wasn't hiding anything. Herr Doktor felt the
need snitching on me as he did to countless others. (Thank Gawd, this guy isn't in charge of who comes in Utah who doesn't. He probably wouldn't let heretics like me to enter Utah, fearing I'd corrupt some Sheep Saints).

Now, I'll grant that it's somewhat incoherent.

But it seems that I "blew his cover," "snitched" on him, by revealing him to be a "heretic" or a "troll," not by revealing his identity (concerning which, incidentally, I have not the slightest idea and not the slightest interest). Apparently, nobody on the board formerly known as FAIR knew that solomarineris was a "heretic" or a "troll" until I let them in on the secret; presumably, he was posting entirely orthodox sentiments, but I was able to detect that those sentiments weren't sincere, or something like that, even though he "wasn't hiding anything." (I have literally no idea what he's talking about.)

My "snitching" on solomarineris supposedly got him booted, and I allegedly "snitched" on "countless others" just as I "snitched" on him. Presumably I did this with the intent of getting him expelled from the board, since solomarineris suspects, on the basis of my alleged treatment of him, that, if I had it in my power, I would bar "heretics like [him]" from even entering the state of Utah.

EAllusion wrote:I also see a claim that the mods at FAIR(ish) are slavishly obedient to your feelings about posters and react against those you are reacting negatively to, which in addition to seeming to be true enough, is quite distinct from you explicitly calling for people's bannings.

Thank you for acknowledging the difference.

But the fact is that I've never even implicitly called for anybody's banning. I can't think of a single case.

EAllusion wrote:Oh. I see. It is indeed an excellent board, isn't it?

I didn't say it's perfect. I said it has more diversity of opinion and more substantive conversation than this one.



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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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DCP wrote:Incidentally, though, I do think it's a better board -- with a better balance between believers and critics, and with more substantive conversations -- than this one.


I'm sure that you're not surprised that I disagree with you on this one, Dan! :wink:
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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Daniel Peterson wrote:I didn't say it's perfect. I said it has more diversity of opinion and more substantive conversation than this one.
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Well, it may have until January 10 of this year. :wink:
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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Daniel Peterson wrote:As a matter of fact, I've often been unaware when people were banned, and, in a substantial percentage of other cases, I've actually been unhappy when somebody was banned or a thread closed because I was planning on responding (and sometimes was in the very act of composing my response).


Wish they all had your gift of discernment and restraint.

Incidentally, though, I do think it's a better board -- with a better balance between believers and critics, and with more substantive conversations -- than this one.


Not only that, but the Mormon Discussions board always fails to agree in unison!
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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Oh my. I had no idea just how deep into his Depends this particular issue would find itself with Le Excessivement Poids Excessif Cou de Dinde! Why it's a veritable Fusion d' Proportions Eclatement de la Terre! I find it endlessly fascinating with the notes I'm taking for buts scolaires that the Abattis Professor simply finds himself besides himself with rage with nary a solution to be found, but to bury himself under layers and layers of self-hating overexcess.

But I suppose this is par for the course since it self-admittedly cruises this board, not to engage in substantive discussion, but to insult and deride others. Frankly, I view this particular Mormon as the plain glazed donut amongst other tastier versions in the academic donut box of the world. His ham handed attempts at self-promotion reek of endless insecurity...

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Hence the need for apologetics.
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_John Larsen
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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I think in general, the level of apologist respondent has declined of late. There are some old time posters, like Scott Lloyd who will jump out on their favorite topics, but in general the level of posting has gone down.

I also think the board is taking a decided swing towards more fundamentalist views on young earth, evolution, polygamy and obedience. Interesting.
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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Peterson wrote:I didn't say it's perfect. I said it has more diversity of opinion and more substantive conversation than this one.


Gotta chuckle.

Pushing 4000 posts here, hundreds each month, one really has to wonder where you have time for other "interests" to compare!

Fortunately not teaching again this semester??
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Re: The Maddest of MAD

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in my opinion, The MD Message Board is the best Message Board out there to discuss Mormonism. This Message Board Here is My Home Message Board.
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