Apostacy big winner at oscars

[_EAllusion]

"Poor Gaz," your descendants will say, "he was limited by his time."

Let me say to your descendants that no you were not. Granted, your contemporary Mormon cultural milieu greatly influenced you, but your time gave you every opportunity to make the right choices. You just turned willfully turned your back on those opportunities to be a hateful bigot. You failed. You bear some responsibility in this. Let's not pawn this off on just your time.

[_Jason Bourne]

Unfortunately, altogether too many choose church leaders instead of the child. We don't do "loving and accepting" very well in the church. And those who choose their children are shunned. And those who love and accept their gay children, and who advocate for changes in policy within the church are just asking to be hauled into the bishop's office. Excommunication isn't off the table, for the parents or the gay child.

You think a parent that is supportive and loving towards a gay child will get church discipline?

I hardly think so.

How is this any different than me loving my inactive son who is not living the LDS rules for the law of chastity or for my daughter who moved in with a guy for six month before they got married. I loved and supported them still and was not called in for anything. And I was quite open about my love and support like most LDS parents I know are when children wander.

[_SatanWasSetUp]

"Poor Gaz," your descendants will say, "he was limited by his time."

Let me say to your descendants that no you were not. Granted, your contemporary Mormon cultural milieu greatly influenced you, but your time gave you every opportunity to make the right choices. You just turned willfully turned your back on those opportunities to be a hateful bigot. You failed. You bear some responsibility in this. Let's not pawn this off on just your time.

Fortunately future apologists do not need to defend Gaz's statements. The apologists here aren't even defending him.

[_SatanWasSetUp]

You think a parent that is supportive and loving towards a gay child will get church discipline?

I hardly think so.

How is this any different than me loving my inactive son who is not living the LDS rules for the law of chastity or for my daughter who moved in with a guy for six month before they got married. I loved and supported them still and was not called in for anything. And I was quite open about my love and support like most LDS parents I know are when children wander.

It's OK to love your child, as long as you continue to fast and pray for them, call them to repentence, and work with the bishop to get them back on the straight and narrow path. That is what LDS consider "loving" your child. I don't know any TBM parent of a "wayward" child who publicly says they love their child for who they are, and are proud of the choices they have made because they are so happy now. Holy crap, can you imagine someone saying that about their gay child?

[_Some Schmo]

Fortunately future apologists do not need to defend Gaz's statements. The apologists here aren't even defending him.

Yeah, well, they've got enough moronic, indefensible stuff to try to make plausible without tackling the crap they don't have to.

[_antishock8]

This reminds me of the Islamic community when one of their own kills a minority. Not much of an outcry. Tacit acceptance. Crazy.

That being said:

Who murdered whom?

I find it disheartening that a murderer, the highest order of sin, is considered a hero. Isn't it wonderful? Isn't it marvelous?

[_Chap]

You think a parent that is supportive and loving towards a gay child will get church discipline?

I hardly think so.

How is this any different than me loving my inactive son who is not living the LDS rules for the law of chastity or for my daughter who moved in with a guy for six month before they got married. I loved and supported them still and was not called in for anything. And I was quite open about my love and support like most LDS parents I know are when children wander.

It's OK to love your child, as long as you continue to fast and pray for them, call them to repentence, and work with the bishop to get them back on the straight and narrow path. That is what LDS consider "loving" your child. I don't know any TBM parent of a "wayward" child who publicly says they love their child for who they are, and are proud of the choices they have made because they are so happy now. Holy crap, can you imagine someone saying that about their gay child?

Half a minute. Jason Bourne is an LDS.

Doesn't he get to say something about 'what LDS consider "loving" your child'? And I am not sure that I have to agree with my children's choices and celebrate them in order to qualify as 'loving and supporting' them, even if I am delighted if they have found a way to live happily.

[_Dr. Shades]

Gazelam:

If Jesus was alive today, who would he be hanging around with: You, or the people you despise?

[_Yoda]

I haven't seen the movie, so can only comment on a general concept:

1. no one deserves to be killed because of their sexual orientation.

2. no one deserves to be marginalized, ostracized, shunned, deprived of family love and support, or be discriminated against due to their sexual orientation.

And Gaz knows he's not in compliance with the gospel. He's just ranting.

I couldn't have put this better myself. This is further evidence that Harmony and I were twins separated at birth.

Gaz......I would like to ask you a couple of questions.

Do you really think that all homosexuals are militantly attempting to "recruit" others to their lifestyle?

Do you actually know anyone who is homosexual?

[_Mister Scratch]

Hey Gaz---

By any chance have you actually seen the film? Mopologists very strongly condemn any commentary on works that one hasn't seen or read. If you are guilty of this, you will be setting back The Agenda a long ways indeed.