What do LDS generally believe about interracial marriage?

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I think if you asked Herber C. Joseph S. Joseph F.S, BY, PPP, if they would risk death for Halle Berry their response would be - hell yes - if they would risk eternal damanation they would say - you bet !

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I would caution anyone seeking a marriage across divides in economic, social, cultural, and/or religious barriers. The reality is that most racial divides are also cultural divides. These differences often involve differences of perspective in how a family operates and that creates tension. I have a friend who married a hispanic man who lived in a very hispanic household. When they were first married, there was some tension about their roles as they both saw them differently.

I don't think any of these make a marriage impossible but a smart person will take them into account.
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The Nehor wrote:I would caution anyone seeking a marriage across divides in economic, social, cultural, and/or religious barriers. The reality is that most racial divides are also cultural divides. These differences often involve differences of perspective in how a family operates and that creates tension. I have a friend who married a hispanic man who lived in a very hispanic household. When they were first married, there was some tension about their roles as they both saw them differently.

I don't think any of these make a marriage impossible but a smart person will take them into account.



Religious barriers? What if both people are of the same religion and grew up under similiar socio-economic conditions?

What say you then?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:Evidence, please?
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Young, Brigham. Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110.)

I'm aware of that quotation.

Africans, of course, were a special case.

Do you have anything to demonstrate your contention that interracial marriage, as such, was punishable by death under Brigham Young?

Do you have any actual evidence to demonstrate that, under Brigham Young, even marriage between whites and blacks was actually punishable by death, as opposed to theoretically so?
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"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Young, Brigham. Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110.)"

Was/is this the law of God in regard to the African race?
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If marriages can survive (and even require) a difference in gender, what possible obstacle could be presented by culture, race or socio-economic status?
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cinepro wrote:If marriages can survive (and even require) a difference in gender, what possible obstacle could be presented by culture, race or socio-economic status?


Excellent point, as usual.
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Tom wrote:"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Young, Brigham. Journal of Discourses, vol. 10, p. 110.)"

Was/is this the law of God in regard to the African race?


To be fair, the OP asks what LDS generally believe about interracial marriage. I don't think this quote from Brigham Young reflects modern "general" LDS belief on the subject, regardless of his original meaning.
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Jersey Girl wrote:That's it. That's my question.

They embrace?
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The Nehor wrote:I would caution anyone seeking a marriage across divides in economic, social, cultural, and/or religious barriers. The reality is that most racial divides are also cultural divides. These differences often involve differences of perspective in how a family operates and that creates tension. I have a friend who married a hispanic man who lived in a very hispanic household. When they were first married, there was some tension about their roles as they both saw them differently.

I don't think any of these make a marriage impossible but a smart person will take them into account.


Nehor, that's BS. I'm sorry my loincloth-clad friend, but that's BS. My fiancee is white, and we do not have any cultural issues. I get along fine with his family, he gets along with mine (to the extent that he can given how they treat me). To be honest, this "white" man is more "in tune" with "black" culture than I am.

We choose to live without labels. And I will continue to do so. Look at my avatar. How am I supposed to raise that child? He does not look "black". Am I to ingrain within his brain that he is a particular color, or do I choose to celebrate the six nationalities within him?

I know many an interracial couple, and they're all happy people. The only issues they come across are those of the people who are too ignorant to look past the differences in their skin color.

And as far as the church is concerned, EVERY SINGLE BLACK LDS FEMALE that I know is either still single, or married to someone who is not LDS.

One more thing. I was often pressured to date African men when I was LDS. It was all but blatantly stated that these were the only individuals that I could date. Do you know that culturally I have less in common with an African man than I do a White American male?

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