Bill Hamblin's idiotic Book of Mormon ''challenges''

[_Some Schmo]

To study with Some Schmo?

Yeah, if he's anything like you, I wouldn't try to teach him anything either. I don't have time for the special ed kids. I gave up trying to pound something into your thick skull a few years ago, when it became apparent even the simplest of concept were out of your intellectual reach. What can ya do?

He doesn't follow this sad little board, and I won't lift a finger to bring your frivolous challenge to his attention. I can't think of any reason he should want to get involved with an implacable, non-substantive character assassin like Scratch.

No, he doesn't. I wonder why you seem obsessed with this "sad little board."

Oh, that's right, to observe...

LMAO

[_Some Schmo]

See, that's what doesn't make sense. *You* post here claiming that you are all sore over being "defamed," and whatnot. Well, here we have a thread in which Bill Hamblin's posts are called, rather directly, "idiotic." What kind of a friend are you, Dan, if you just sit there and let Hamblin get torn to pieces? Why don't you alert him to the fact that his buffoonery is on full display?

Not to mention he had no problem alerting GoodK's dad in a similar situation of mockery. This should be a no-brainer, given there's no chance of disruption to family harmony that could take place as a result... or maybe that's the difference for danny boy right there.

[_Gadianton]

I'm pretty sure that you're capable of distinguishing between the kind of interaction that Professor Hamblin has had with James White and the kind of interaction that he would be likely to have here with Mister Scratch, let alone with Some Schmo, collegeterrace/PP, solomarineris, Mercury, TAK, Joey, and/or poor antishock8.

White was a single example. While I think James White is a bright individual and made some good points, he's nowhere near the level of Mister Scratch. So you are right, Hamblin had a chance at winning in a debate with White, but little to no chance to even come out with anything left in a debate with Mister Scratch. So yes, I can distinquish between playing it safe and true debating bravery. I've seen Hamblin interact with plenty of people that he and certainly other apologists think are far beneath them. The fact that you think poorly of everyone on your list is supposed to be a big opportunity for the apologist to jump in and look brilliant in comparison, that's what the whole "funniest anti-Mormon" is all about. So this should only be more reason for him to come here.

But the reality is, he's likely scared of losing, especially to Mister Scratch.

[_EAllusion]

I remember when Dr. Hamblin, under a pseudonym, tried to argue with me that natural selection is a tautology. You know, it's just saying survivors survive. It's an argument even the young earth creationist organization Answers in Genesis tells creationists to give up. Good times. Anyway, the best Dr. Hamblin argument I've seen was his insanely naïve calculations of the probability of Smith "guessing" Book of Mormon names, which got all the more surreal when pseduoscientific probability concepts from the intelligent design movement got incorporated into the conversation. At the time, I just thought it was hilarious how he was making a fool out of himself given how looked up to he was on the board, but in retrospect, I feel some pity there.

Truly a fearsome opponent. Lucky for us he's not here.

[_Calculus Crusader]

I remember when Dr. Hamblin, under a pseudonym, tried to argue with me that natural selection is a tautology. You know, it's just saying survivors survive. It's an argument even the young earth creationist organization Answers in Genesis tells creationists to give up. Good times. Anyway, the best Dr. Hamblin argument I've seen was his insanely naïve calculations of the probability of Smith "guessing" Book of Mormon names, which got all the more surreal when pseduoscientific probability concepts from the intelligent design movement got incorporated into the conversation. At the time, I just thought it was hilarious how he was making a fool out of himself given how looked up to he was on the board, but in retrospect, I feel some pity there.

Truly a fearsome opponent. Lucky for us he's not here.

I remember when Hamblin tried to prop up the purloined Mormon temple ceremony by citing the forgery known as "Secret Mark." Mormon apologists will drag in any old **** in order to argue for their patently fraudulent religion.

[_Gadianton]

OMG!! P*WND!!

[_Daniel Peterson]

Well, here we have a thread in which Bill Hamblin's posts are called, rather directly, "idiotic." What kind of a friend are you, Dan, if you just sit there and let Hamblin get torn to pieces?

Knowing him as I do, I'm quite confident that he doesn't care what's being said about him on this little board with its dozen-to-two-dozen regular participants, most of whom would be hostile to him no matter what he said, anyway.

Why don't you alert him to the fact that our buffoonery is on full display?

I've told him, from time to time, about some of the buffoonery here. He's shown no interest.

(I admire him for that.)

I think the reason is that you know he has a hot temper, and you know he would get crushed if he came over here. He wouldn't be able to control his emotions, and his outburst(s) would be a colossal embarrassment, and a serious blow against Mopologetic credibility. Further, I think you know that he's pretty poor when it comes to rhetoric and debate.

I'm not sure that I've ever seen him angry, and he's quite able to defend his positions.

I remember a very key incident some time ago, in which Dr. Hamblin tried to take on Kevin Graham over on Kerry Shirts's blog (I believe that's where it was), and you had to come rushing in to bail him out. It was a sad spectacle indeed. To think: this doyen of Mopologetics was unable to hold his own! He needed his "Big Bro" DCP to come and save him.

Likewise, I think you understand that other Mopologists who have been put under the microscope--folks like L. Midgley, M. Roper, and J. Tvedtnes--would crawl away completely beaten and whimpering.

I'm picturing a great ape, beating his chest in the jungle.

This is pretty funny stuff.

Go ahead and invite them over.

You're every bit as capable of inviting them over as I am. And you pretend to want them here, while I don't care.

It would seem that Gary Novak has already been here, using an alias.

Really? If he has been, I haven't heard anything about it.

What alias is it that you suspect represents Gary Novak?

[_Daniel Peterson]

A passage from a little-known Scratchite liturgical text:

White was a single example. While I think James White is a bright individual and made some good points, he's nowhere near the level of Mister Scratch.

Praised be Mister Scratch, master of English prose.

Let all the people say Amen.

So you are right, Hamblin had a chance at winning in a debate with White, but little to no chance to even come out with anything left in a debate with Mister Scratch.

Praised be Mister Scratch, supreme intellect.

Let all the people say Amen.

But the reality is, he's likely scared of losing, especially to Mister Scratch.

Praised be Mister Scratch, lord of terror, sovereign of might.

Let all the people say Amen.

[_The Nehor]

You certainly insinuate we are wrong/stupid.

I'm sorry, I came across with more subtlety then was intended.

Dude, I am neither stupid or about remembering what missionaries taught
me about Book of Mormon/Lamanites.

Well said. Oh wait....no.....

I think you perfectly know this, especially DCP, what he taught on mission field.

I know what I taught on mission field.

Normal people with average memories do not turn to be a Winston Smith, the hero of 1984.

Were you reading the same book? That guy isn't a hero. He was a weak-willed worm.

If DCP's mind would be open thruth, I'd bet a cool 100K, that he knows the truth and yet he fakes, like you do.
What a life to live.

Why do I doubt you have a cool 100k? I'm not sure you'd know the thruth if you saw it.

A pathetic, intellectually dishonest all the way.

All the way......all the way......

But most people like you anyway, DCP, even though they know you well.

I've seen the malice in his heart and still like him. Must be how everyone feels.

by the way, Bill Hamblin is nothing but an intellectual coward, in my opinion.

Intellectual cowards don't publish books sharing their thoughts for all the world to see.

Might want to post sober in the future.

[_solomarineris]

You certainly insinuate we are wrong/stupid.

I'm sorry, I came across with more subtlety then was intended.

Dude, I am neither stupid or about remembering what missionaries taught
me about Book of Mormon/Lamanites.

Well said. Oh wait....no.....

I think you perfectly know this, especially DCP, what he taught on mission field.

I know what I taught on mission field.

Normal people with average memories do not turn to be a Winston Smith, the hero of 1984.

Were you reading the same book? That guy isn't a hero. He was a weak-willed worm.

If DCP's mind would be open thruth, I'd bet a cool 100K, that he knows the truth and yet he fakes, like you do.
What a life to live.

Why do I doubt you have a cool 100k? I'm not sure you'd know the thruth if you saw it.

A pathetic, intellectually dishonest all the way.

All the way......all the way......

But most people like you anyway, DCP, even though they know you well.

I've seen the malice in his heart and still like him. Must be how everyone feels.

by the way, Bill Hamblin is nothing but an intellectual coward, in my opinion.

Intellectual cowards don't publish books sharing their thoughts for all the world to see.

Might want to post sober in the future.

Awesome Nehor
What did you teach in mission field? Nephites & Lamanites were tiny groups among hundreds of tribes in Americas? Go ahead tell me that I am lying when missionaries told me in 1976 Nephites & Lamanites were predecessors of all Native American Tribes.
Intellectual cowards run when they face scrutinity. Publishing books is fine, how about discussing them with your adversary, oh I forgot, nobody outside Corridor takes him seriously when he talks about Book of Mormon fiction.
I can't say you or DCP are malicious; misguided fakers, defenders of baloney yes.
You don't even dare to pimp here what you believe, you're always on defensive.
When I talk Fundy Christian believer at least he asks me to pray to God or he'll pray for me. You guys are no believers. DCP is supposedly a bishop, what is his ecclesiastical influence here, he doesn't come across as defender of faith.
Sorry to disappoint ya but I have money and I'd put that amount very confidently on
DCP'S being a faker. I can't prove it but I know it. The guy is too smart to believe this crock.